Durham Shocker! Sussmann Walks, Jury Nullification Suspected

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The number to call to be on the show. Today is going to be kind of a big day, a lot going on. Secretary of State Blinken is participating in joint press availability with NATO's general secretary, trying to make sure the West stays involved in Ukraine. Evidently, Germany and France are losing interest. Isn't that nice?

What lack of character there? Zelensky's calling him out. And President Biden will meet virtually with administration officials on the infant formula problem. You know, if you have a kid, this is not getting any better. They say, don't worry, it'll get better in July.

July, and he's not a mind reader.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I told the truth to the FBI. And the jury clearly recognized that with their unanimous verdict today. Despite being falsely accused, I'm relieved that justice ultimately prevailed in my case.

You are a liar, and you know you're a liar. Michael Sussman skates, but the Durham probe fights on. To me, this is failure of the jury, not the prosecution. Sussman was caught lying. He caught on a text.

He's caught dead to rights. A friendly jury says, so what? Number two. Uh listen, active shooter protocols say you go in. We're putting it all on the local cop with six cops beneath him.

At the end of the day, the police showed up. After that the sheriff showed up, after that the state troopers showed up, when did they say, hey, we need to go in? It turns out Bortek went in on their own, believe it or not. Uvaldi trying to unwind what exactly happened inside Rob Elementary amid conflicting reports of cooperation from the sheriff in charge, and more and more children are coming forward with the horror that took place last Tuesday. Also, the latest on the bipartisan talks between ending the obscene violence on schools.

Republicans are putting school safety first. The Dems hate guns. Number one. I think I was wrong then about the path that inflation would take. As I mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that I at the time didn't fully understand.

Janet Yellen says, I was wrong. Prices are soaring. The White House is secretly cheering while deflecting all blame elsewhere. And a study shows that you are adjusting your shopping, dining, and driving patterns to adjust. The White House blame game, as the Secretary of Treasury says, blame me.

And the president says, blame the Fed, not me, and then blames his staff.

So let's get started. The NBC report that we touched on yesterday talked about how the president said, why am I getting a cascade of bad news? Why is my communications team always walking back everything I say? Like, for example, what you said about nine millimeter guns. Nobody needs them.

Oh, let's walk that back. Missile systems, we're not going to send them to Ukraine.

Okay, let's walk that back and just adjust the type of. Missile system we're sending. And then the president says, you know, it's going to be quick, this inflation. And we know it's not transitory. Janet Yellen echoed the president, and now Janet Yellen is taking the blame for him.

And then Brian Deese was up there because his press secretary to replace. Jen Saki is absolutely awful. Brian Deese seems like a good guy, but does not have any personality. Director of the National Economic Council, trying to explain why your life has been so affected. I'm talking about seriously affected.

You know, the people talk about Uvalde, absolutely horrified by it. You talk about Ukraine, we understand the implications of it, at least most do. But if people want to know how inflation is affecting your life, look in your bank account. How Americans are offsetting the increase of the cost of living. 42% are changing how they shop.

46% are dining out less and spend less when they do dine out. 31% are driving less to offset the caring soaring cost of gas. Which one are you, by the way? 23% are spending less on vacations. We're going to find that out very shortly.

Or canceling them altogether.

Some people are so horrified by the airline cancellations during Memorial Day. You're probably going to just back off doing anything you can't drive to. And 22% are taking measures such as canceling subscriptions to gyms, cable, et cetera. Let's hope you don't do that to cable. And certainly.

Not to your streaming, especially when it comes to Fox Nation. Inflation disrupts American savings plans. 36% have reduced savings. 21% have reduced retirement savings. That's serious stuff, that according to another recent study.

So, how are you being affected? And more importantly, according to Emerson, you blame the president. He's got 38% approval ratings, cut one. My plan is to address inflation. It starts with a simple proposition.

Respect the Fed, respect the Fed's independence. which I have done and will continue to do. Right, thanks. That really is going to help me. As I'm in California spending $8 for gas, did you hear, honey?

The President respects the Fed. You know what it also means? He isolates the Fed and says their policies are the problem. Why we have high gas rates, inflation rates, which means everything you have is worthless. Not worthless, but worthless.

So now they're talking about canceling student loans.

Some states are getting rid of the taxes on g on the gas tax. The only thing that bothers me about that is if you start canceling gas taxes in places like Connecticut and New York, which they're doing, you get 16 cents roughly off, okay, help a little. But where are you making up that 16 cents? You're going to have to raise your state taxes to do the bridges and runs and roads and tunnels. That's where the money usually comes from.

So bottom line is Larry Summers was right. And the president was wrong. The thing that makes it interesting is Larry Summers works for Obama as Treasury Secretary. He is not some right-wing zealot. Not that Larry Kudlow is either, but Larry Kudlow worked for Trump.

and says you got to tackle inflation. Blaming the Fed's not going to work. And he also believes that on some level, this administration is happy, happy that gas is so much you might be more open to an electric vehicle. The problem, Mr. President, to your tongue-in-cheek fake crocodile tears, is that the electric cars aren't ready, the infrastructure is not there, solar panels aren't effective yet, and neither are windmills.

In fact, if you go to Europe, I was stunned to see this story that Europe doesn't even want to go to renewables because they don't like the sight of the windmills and they don't like the sight of the solar fields. You believe that? Larry Kudlow, cut five. Biden's article in the Wall Street Journal today that was the talk of the town had no new inflation plan, anti-inflation plan. It had nothing.

I mean, what he's setting us up here is for his vision, this woke vision, of a fossil-free economy, which is going to do enormous damage to the economy. It'll put it in a permanent recession. It'll cause millions of job losses and rising unemployment.

So You know, I I I equate a lot of things to sports. If you're out there and you're giving it your role and you're talking to your teammates and you're trying to win a game. And then you go ahead and put in a backup goalie who's clearly not good because when you finish the game and you lose and you gave it your all and you thought, well, what could I do? You find that the management put in the bad goalie in order to get the number one pick of the draft. They wanted to lose.

I think on some level, it's becoming clearer and clearer to you, certainly to me, that the president wants gas prices to go up. He's paying it at the price. He's going to pay it for the election, but he wants us to transition to. Net zero. But the electric cars aren't there, the batteries aren't there, we don't have the rare earth.

That's the issue.

So I'm just stunned by what's going on right now. And the president blaming his own staff makes me feel very insecure about the interaction of the country.

So. The ineptness is concerning.

Now, the other thing that's going on that people are talking about in this town when they get back to work, by June 6th, when people go back to Congress to work, they want to have the framework of a bipartisan plan when it comes to securing our schools. The word is the President of the United States is not interested in security for the schools. He wants to go after the guns. He wants to ban AR-15s. He wants to limit or raise the age to 21.

He's not getting that directly involved, but that's what Democrats do through Senator Murphy. He knows if he gets any more involved when he makes his comments about AR-15s and the 9mm, he makes things tougher to negotiate. He understands that still because he was there for the longest time, and he knows how the White House can many, it's very easy for them to screw this up.

Now, everybody wants to harden the target. What I was done to find out is the President is not all in on hardening the targets. Listen to this for Karine Jean-Pierre, Cut 14. I noticed there in conversation about hardening schools. That is not something that he believes in.

He believes that we should be able to give teachers the resources to be able to do the job that they're meant to do at schools. And this is something that he's been focusing on since he was a vice president. Total nonsense. The president's not into harding the targets at schools. He's not into making schools safer.

He wants to make the White House is pretty safe. Most businesses are pretty safe. You know, you go to colleges. They got their own security team.

Now he's not interested in harding the target. I mean, pretty clear is Beto O'Rourke, desperate to matter after failing to get the Democratic nomination as president, failed spectacularly despite a ton of money. Gave up his seat, did not become senator from Texas, gave up a seat in Congress.

Now he wants to be the governor. He has that grandstanding at the day after the shooting last week of saying the governor should do more. Then he came out and just said this to Texas, Cut 15. I just took the position that may not be politically popular, may be too honest, that not only should no one be able to purchase an AR-15 or an AK-47 because they're designed to kill humans and that high-impact, high-velocity round will just tear up everything inside. You'll bleed out before we can get you back to life.

But I don't think that the people who have them right now in civilian use should be able to keep them. All right, good luck with that. That is exactly what people are looking to do. Every Republican says, just watch it. They're coming for the Second Amendment.

Look at Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Venezuela, Cuba. They're coming for your guns. And that's what they're saying.

Now, I don't know. I hear, according to Politico, Lindsey Graham and Senator Murphy are working on something on the red flag law. I think we all can agree the 18-year-old who's a nut who's absolutely deranged, like the buffalo shooter as well as the. Yeah. Uh as the the shooter in Uvalde.

Everybody knew these guys were dangerous. Nobody wants them to get a gun. Nobody believes they should get a gun.

So, how do we work on the same page to do that? Technology out there, Senator Rubio told us yesterday, that allows us to identify would-be school shooters and violent actors in grade school using some of the same terroristic techniques they used to take down ISIS, al-Qaeda, and al-Shabaab, and all those across around the world. And it's pretty effective. We'll discuss that. 1-866-408-7669, Rich Lowry at the bottom of the hour.

I want to pivot, if I can, to the Dorm verdict yesterday. Could not be disappointed, but not that surprised when you have an AOC. contributor when you have three Hillary Clinton supporters who are in the jury pool. And despite protests, the judge, who's also got links to the Democratic Party, says you could trust me to be honest and fair. When Michael Sussman has says, I am coming to you in a text message to see you, Jim Baker, at the FBI, and I'm representing myself, and then you tell the FBI, No, I work for the Democratic Party, you have lied to the FBI.

But somehow, this jury says that's not the case. Here's Michael Sussman falsely claiming vindication, Cut 17. I told the truth to the FBI. And the jury clearly recognized that with their unanimous verdict today. Despite being falsely accused, I'm relieved that justice ultimately prevailed in my case.

Okay. Five and a half hours in deliberations. One was a fundraiser for AOC, three as Clinton supporters, one with links to an FBI agent we all know, one of the lovebirds, and a judge that's compromised. But we said these guys go to law school, they're supposed to have this push for sanctity and honesty. Would that prevail?

Michael Sussman's caught dead to rights, fomenting a false narrative about Trump and Alpha Bank, which is a Russian bank. And he tells the story at the same time somebody else is working the story with the press. I'm just laughing at some of these people writing columns today as if Durham failed. Yeah, Dorm didn't get the conviction, but he presented all the evidence. This is a failure of the jury.

With Andy McCarthy has a more of a subtle take, but I want to let you hear from John Yoo. John Yoo is a a former justice official with Tr uh with the Bush administration, Cut 21. Durham had Sussman dead to rights. Sussman did in an email and in statements to the FBI say something that was false, that he wasn't bringing this information to the FBI as part of a partisan campaign of representing someone. He alleged he was just doing it to be a good citizen when we know he wasn't, that he was being paid by Hillary Clinton to do this.

Yeah, so we lied about that. How did he get away with it?

Well, John Yu says, as much as he. Has him dead to rights. He was not surprised by the verdict. And he's a former deputy assistant to the Attorney General under Bush. Cut 20.

I'm not surprised that the jury acquitted. D.C. juries are famous for refusing to follow the facts and the law. And the trial judge here allowed a number of people who would, I think, normally be kicked off a jury for supporting Hillary Clinton or supporting the Democratic Party from serving on the jury in a case that was about the unsavory campaign tactics of the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton. Yeah.

I just wish that Jory would be honest. I mean, this isn't one of those things. Ooh, I wonder what part they I'm gonna you're gonna hear from Andy McCarthy a little bit later, and he says it's a bad strategy that Sussman made the FBI look as if they were being duped as opposed to being in on it. Yeah. I'm going to let him explain that to you.

He's going to be with us live, and he was on last night as his verdict broke.

So 1-866-408-7669. I know you have a lot to say. Gas prices, taking off the gas tax. Does that make sense to you? Will that change your behavior, which you've witnessed this weekend on vacations?

The trouble the airlines are having even staffing. Is that going to change your vacation plans? What about the fact that your paycheck's going up but not as fast as inflation? Has that already changed your lifestyle? We'll take a look at all that.

And so much more. We have a lot to cover.

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Subscribe and listen now at FoxNewsPodcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I think that is the lesson of history. Here's the unfortunate, painful fact, and it's true of the US experience, and it's true of the experience of other rich countries like us.

When inflation's above four and unemployment's below four, you are almost certain to have a recession within the next two years. We may somehow find a way of beating the odds and having a soft landing. But it would be a historic counterexample, not a historic norm, if that proves to be true. Larry Summers, he was the one who predicted inflation would rise if they passed a $1.9 trillion rescue bill, which we did not need. But President Biden gets in, gets all these votes, and says, okay, I'm going to use that to rescue the economy that was already turning around, that got $900 billion probably three weeks before.

And Now he's saying, I told you that inflation was real, it was going to go up, and it's not transitory.

Now you have Janet Yellen, the Treasury Secretary now, says, I was wrong. And the President of the United States says, don't blame me. But Larry Summer is saying, This is what my thought was into. That was my thought process. He says, I've been wrong before.

I just wasn't wrong then. William was on WTRC. Hey, William. Good morning, Brian. Good morning.

What's on your mind? Certainly appreciate you taking my call. You know, the verdict yesterday, not surprising at all. I mean, there was a precedent that was set with Clinton in the first place when Hillary walked. Do you remember during the debate and Trump was saying, lock her up, lock her up, and oh my god, how could somebody say something like that?

You know, you couldn't do that to such a political icon like that, like like Hillary Clinton. All the way down the line, you look at Comey, that was I was thinking, oh, well, maybe something's going to happen here. That was a farce. That was all set up to make it look like it was going to something that was really going to happen, that they were going to be fair and balanced. All along, there's nobody That has a D behind their name that has to be concerned with anything that they do wrong.

It even shows you. William, I don't blame your cynicism. I don't fault you for having it, but I think you're going to be wrong. When Dashenko is tried in, and by the way, we got a lot of facts out of this trial. And when Dashenko is tried in Virginia, and you're going to see a much more honest jury, these juries are partisan.

I mean, 10 to 1, Democrats over Republicans in D.C., they were up against it. This guy was caught dead to rights, dead to rights in text saying he misidentified what he was doing and who he was working for. He was saying he represented himself when he was representing Hillary Clinton. Why do we know? He billed Hillary Clinton for the time.

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So the idea is high caliber weapon. There you go. Yeah. simply no rational basis for it. In terms of But you hear about self-protective honey.

And that was Joe Biden ad living off the cuff. And that made everybody think, you know, gun owners feel that he's coming for your guns. Instead of saying, let's keep schools safe, he would like your guns. Thank you. Much like Justin Trudeau, which doesn't fly in America.

Rich Lowry probably is not surprised by this. He wrote a column about this. He's with the National Review. He joins us every week. Hey, Rich, we wanted to play that for you because you referred to it in your column.

And these are a series of gaffes and walkbacks that Joe Biden has made, whether it's Vladimir Putin. Saying Vladimir Putin must go, whether it's talking about defending Taiwan with American forces, if China was to invade. And not only is he not regretful of those gaffes, He's mad at his staff for walking him back. How do you make sense of this? Yeah, this is one of the most incredible stories we we've seen.

Recently, NBC News yesterday ran the story about what's going on in this White House in disarray and said that Biden is very upset because he goes out there routinely and makes, quote, clear and succinct statements that for some reason are walked back. By the White House staff, and he thinks this creates the impression I know that he's not fully in control and All over his authenticity that supposedly fueled his rise.

So on the foreign policy stuff, you know, with regard to defending Taiwan and whether Putin should go or not, I mean, these are this is just basic matters of US policy that he's misstating, flagrantly misstating potentially in a really consequential and dangerous way.

So of course it's going to be walked back immediately. And then this gun statement, you know, I'm not a gun expert. I have friends who are gun experts. I know enough about guns to know I'm not an expert. But I know apparently more than every single elected Democrat.

in the United States, who they're they're just all ignorant, and Biden showed it with that statement. You know, a twenty two, my understanding is it's yes, it's not quite as powerful as a nine millimeter, but it when it hits you, it kind of rips through your body internally, kind of bounces around and is going to be much more damaging than a nine millimeter that might go all the way through you, which sounds horrible. And look, it's it's not going to be shot in any circumstance, but might be less damaging to your internal organ.

So it it doesn't make any sense. And then to all of a sudden bring pistols onto the table when the focus has always been rifles and AR fifteens, you know, if they banned AR fifteen's and nine millimeter pistols, they'd ban the most popular handguns in the United States and those popular rifles in the United States. And there's obviously just no way that would pass Second Amendment muster. How about that? Or any Republican, especially someone pro-gun, and we all know people listening to us right now that are pro-gun are usually the most responsible out there because they have to take the training.

They put their guns in lockboxes and they know the danger. And, you know, if you talk to, let's say, the most flagrant, the most obvious example would be the Robertson family. Willie Robertson says, I was using a gun since I was seven years old, but I was taught how to clean a gun. I was taught what to do with a gun. We put the hell of a scare put into us at a young age because the dangers of that weapon.

And that's what gun owners are afraid of. We're going to wake up one day, and now they first they want the AR-15, let's ban that.

Now we want the nine-millimeter, you just heard the president. The AR-15, that was the gubernatorial candidate, the epic failure, Beta O'Rourke. And they look at what happened in Canada and say, what do you mean it can't happen here?

So that, I mean, for Joe Biden to not understand the debate at 78 years old, 30-plus years in the Senate, knows the gun debate, you should know it backwards and forwards. They're trying to do something bipartisan. I'm not sure it's going to work, but having the president of the United States start saying this only makes things more difficult, don't you think? Yeah, totally. And the Justin Chudeau thing is a great example.

This guy is a progressive hero. Progressives in this country love him. And what has he done? In reaction to a terrible event in the United States, he's banning guns and grabbing guns.

So this is obviously these mass shootings are a hellish problem, literally. And it's very difficult to deal with because you have people taking advantage of the constitutional right to wreak this mayhem.

So I think all you can do, unfortunately, is work the margins. Better security at schools. It's not crazy to think, if you can, to do a single entrance and multiple exits, to have armed guards at schools, to have authorities and parents tilt more towards being alarmed by disturbing behavior of young men because they're always warning signs. And then I think red flag laws make sense. I think only at the state level you want to experiment with them.

You want to be careful about how they're crafted.

So you're honoring due process. But again, all this stuff would only Make a difference at the margins. And what we need ultimately is this kind of cultural phenomenon to burn out. You know, Colin Bine created this idea for a certain segment of hateful kids that this is what you do. And we just need to get beyond that somehow.

But it's a hellish problem. And just let me just give people an update: this story from CBS: that Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal are making progress in talks about red flag legislation. In recent days, the two have been in frequent phone calls about it to review a red flag. They co-sponsored that they tried to get through in 2019, make revisions that they believe can enable a similar tweaked proposal to win support on a divided Senate. Look, we want to stop the buffalo shooter at 17.

He was wanted to, he was pulled aside at 17. His record's expunged at 18. He passes a background check. This other guy was 17, begging his sister to let him buy a gun. Everybody feared him.

Most people predicted he'd be sure to shoot up a school. He ends up shooting at elementary school when he. Turns 18.

So I would love to be able to look at the last 15, 25 shootings and say, what commonalities do they have? Would a red flag law help? We could talk about that. But talking more just for a second about Joe Biden, you compare him to Trump. Like Trump, a lot of times, will step on his own message.

Sometimes it's good news. And you also point out that Joe Biden has been doing this for decades. Here is an example. And Joe Biden was confronted by his own staff walkbacks, his dismissal of it. Listen.

Are you worried that other leaders in the world are going to start to doubt that America is back if some of these big things that you say? On the world stage, keep getting walked back. What's getting walked back? It made it sound like, just in the last couple days, it sounded like he told U.S. troops they were going to Ukraine.

It sounded like he said it was possible the U.S. would use a chemical weapon, and it sounded like you were calling for regime change in Russia. And we know none of the three occurred. None of the three.

Okay. What do you say what do you say to that? None of the three a card I didn't say. I mean, w w what what can you do? I mean, d you know, who do you believe?

Me or your lying eyes or your lying ears? I mean, that that's Pathetic. And what what that's that's Peter, right? Yep. asking the question.

I mean, he's the only one who asks these questions by and large. And the abuse he takes including for the President, you know, and to his credit, he kind of laughed it off. But from other late night comics and all the rest, just for asking these questions. Which would, you know, again, for Trump, he'd be hounded every day with everyone asking these questions because, as Biden, it's by and large only one journalist willing to do it.

So, I mean, this is to me a major problem. He's going to get slammed. He better get slammed in the midterms. That means performance means nothing if he doesn't, because he has earned 38% approval rating from Emerson. I don't even know why he's even approaching 40%.

Because if you look at Baby Formula, the supply chain, inflation, all inaccurate, that it was a mind reader on Baby Formula, they told him in December that he was supply chain, that the supply chain was fixed. We know that's not fixed. Inflation was transitory. Do I need to say any more? And now the Ukraine was going to fall in 72 hours.

Now we're slowly getting up to weapon systems. Do you know yesterday he was asked, too, as I'm just thinking about this? What about the long-range weapon systems that Ukraine needs? He goes, No, I'm not going to give it to him.

Okay. Well, today he writes a column, allegedly, and he says, I'm going to give him a weapon system that just doesn't go quite as far.

Now, what president would blurt out something like that? I'm not going to give him long for weapons, maybe medium range and instead of far range. But he blurts out a strategic war, a strategic weapon to the enemy, answering arbitrarily, which you basically got walked back yesterday because they came back with this column he allegedly wrote. He's writing a column a day now, Wall Street Journal, New York Times. You know, he's very busy trying to get a message out there.

And he really cares about baby form. Let's say he's going to talk to the Gerber people. Yeah. So I mean he's beh been behind the curve on everything. They had had minimized and said that the foremost problem in the in the country, inflation was going to go away.

And they're just paying a price for that. And it's impossible to spin. You can't spend. How high is that counter going with the cost of gases? You're filling up.

And you're like, it should be full now. It should be full now. And it just keeps on going and going and going. There's just no good answer for that. And they'll pay a big price in November.

I would think so.

So I got to bring you to Dorm real quick. I know you're not a lawyer, but. This guy, Michael Sussman, was caught dead to rights, texting. He was not characterizing correctly who he was representing was Hillary Clinton. How do we know he billed Hillary Clinton for it?

He went up there and lied to the FBI. They say, just one count.

Well, on one count, on the same time somebody else was talking to the press about the same count, about Trump's link with Alpha Bank, which is a Russia bank, all not true, to push that forward against the FBI to do an investigation, which never would move forward if they knew a Hillary Clinton confidant was giving him that information. The FBI made it clear, but yet he still gets exonerated. And now it looks like Durham doesn't know what he's doing, that Trump is making up a story. I mean How can you possibly look at this and think the jury has not failed to do their job? Yes.

Well, Andy McCarthy, my colleague, your colleague, he thinks it never should have been the case never should have been brought because it just wasn't a slam dunk. And one of the key things was the text That's black and white, where he's misrepresenting himself to the FBI, couldn't be admitted to evidence because the statute of limitations had expired by the time Durham got his hands on it. I understand the impulse to nail these people to the wall because Mueller did the same thing to anyone who had a foreign disclosure that wasn't up to date or potentially had lied to the FBI. Yeah, so what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The problem is now this is going to discredit all the good information.

That Durham has, and the really most damning revelation here is not necessarily anything about Sussman, it was about the FBI at the end of the day knew what he was about. They knew his partisan affiliation, and they didn't care. And they hid the information from other elements of the FBI, and this thing spun on of its own momentum. In a way, Rich, but I'm not sure. Because he went out of his way to say, I'm coming as myself, Jim.

So, in other words, Rich, if you were to go see somebody about something, you say, Listen, I know I got this great job in the National Review. I'm just coming as Rich Lowry.

Now, I know you work for the National Review, but you just told me you're just coming as you. You're not coming to get a new column or get a TV gig. You're coming as you or radio job.

So I'm like, okay, you know, so I know what you do. They know what he does, but he's coming as you.

So I know you. I think you're authentic. You got to come see me. You know the danger of lying to the FBI.

So what's going on? I'm just worried about the country. I mean, Trump's got this link to Alphabank. Look at the cyber. My cyber team turned up.

You know, see what you get. And the same thing they're saying to the Times.

So here's Andy McCarthy kind of saying what you just said: cut 19. In order to figure out this case, I think you really have to make up your mind about what the FBI is. Are they a dupe or are they a willing collaborator? Durham has staked his investigation on the notion that they're a dupe. You have to prove for materiality purposes in a false statements trial that the duped party actually was fooled.

And I think the evidence here was pretty strong that even though what Sussman told them was false, it was factually untrue, they weren't fooled at all by it. They fully knew that they were getting political information from a partisan source, and a lot of what they did was designed to conceal the fact that they knew that.

So Again, I'm not burdened by law school. Or ever have tried a case, but I look at this and I say, so? I mean, that's where you go through the further investigation.

So the FBI was duped by that, but this guy lied to the FBI.

So the fact that you lied to the FBI, and the FBI winking a nod, says, okay, I know you're lying. But I'm going to go ahead and do this investigation, another wink and a nod, because I'm concerned about the country, air quotes.

So let me put this forward. The seventh floor or the sixth floor, the FBI is so excited about this, Comey and McCabe and company, about this link. They're exercised about it. They want to follow it.

Now, are they the worst investigators ever? Or are they making sure that Trump has an unsuccessful presidency or doesn't get elected? Either way, If I'm a jury, what did you ask me? Is this guy lying? Yes.

Well, is it I like to I I look at as a juror. Dizzy like, yes, he lied.

So I don't get it, but that does not stop Dashenko to being tried. He's going to get tried in Virginia.

Now, he created the Steele document unwittingly created the Steele dossier on hearsay. He was stunned to see it in the Steele dossier. He's like, really? That stuff I heard through a second source you put in a product that you handed over to the Clinton campaign and you pushed to Mother Jones? Really?

So So I I think the thing is the jury didn't see, c couldn't consider the text. And we look at the text like, yeah, he he lied. He put it, he put it in print. There's no question that he lied.

So the jury is just considering his conversation with the FBI agent Baker, right? That's his name. See, why couldn't they consider the text? I did not know this. Why do they consider the text?

Because the statute of limitations had expired, so you couldn't you couldn't add an additional count? uh based on on the text. Is my understanding. And then these conversations with the FBI, I don't understand why they're not recorded, but they're never recorded. It's based on the FBI agent's memory.

And his memory was a little fuzzy.

So then you get reasonable doubt, and then you have the materiality question. The FBI didn't believe them.

So I just think at the end of the day, whether Sussman should have been convicted or not, the scandal is not Sussman. The scandal is the FBI. And it's the point Andy raised and the point you just raised. Are they idiots or are they malevolent actors? Or are they somewhere in between?

But that's the main story. Either way, America loses. No, it really does. Rich Lowry, thanks so much. Read his column today.

All right. 1866. You too. 1866-408-7669. Brian Kilmeetcho.

Getting past all the rhetoric. It's Brian Kill Me. Celebrating 12 years on the radio. Yeah, it's exciting, or it might be just too much. Kill me.

It's Brian Killmead. Judge Judy, will you be watching my, will you be listening to my radio show today? Be honest. If I knew more about it, I would need to have glued to my radio, Mr. President.

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The question is: have you gotten rid of your chest hair? Remember that years ago we did an interview and they said, what can I do about my chest here if I want to compete in bodybuilding? And I said, put some gasoline on it and burn it off. That was true. And that was your best friend because, let's be honest, the only thing keeping me from success in bodybuilding was my Italian chest hair.

It was really startly. What the heck was that? That was a a trip through time. You kind of surprised me there, Allison. We'd like to surprise you like that.

Did you realize today is the 12th anniversary of you having the show on your own? I did not know that. That's a 12th anniversary for everybody, right? Correct. Yeah, so that's congratulations to everyone.

We're still on the air at least for two more hours today, unless something terribly goes wrong.

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We're located at 48th and 6th, heard around the country, heard around the world, especially in the Ukraine. Today, I'm coming to you from one of our great affiliates, WOKB, in Jacksonville. I'm going to be joined shortly by one of the smartest legal minds in the business, great writer, too, Angie McCarthy. At the bottom of the hour, I think the future Prime Minister of Israel, Danny Dannon, the former ambassador to the United Nations from Israel, has been at the forefront of every major decision and also at the forefront of the Abraham Accords, which is so underappreciated in today's America. This was written about by Nikki Haley today, ironically.

The President of the United States is going to be talking to baby formula leaders to pretend that he knows and cares about baby formula, even though he's not a mind reader. And he was told about it and could have looked in for it, and his staff could have made sure this didn't happen. Happen and the FDA could have whispered in his ear that when I shut down this one factory in Sturgis, a lot of babies will be screaming crying because there'll be nothing on the shelves. But no one told him until May, if you don't believe him, but I don't know what to believe because his staff, according to the NBC, seems to be turning against him. That's how he actually feels.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I told the truth to the FBI. And the jury clearly recognized that with their unanimous verdict today. Despite being falsely accused, I'm relieved that justice ultimately prevailed in my case.

There you go. Michael Sussman skates, but the Durham probe fights on. To me, this is a failure of the jury, not the prosecution. Andy McCarthy feels differently. He's smarter than me and taller.

Michael Sussman was caught lying, and a friendly jury says, so what? Number two. Uh listen. Active shooter protocols say you go in. We're putting it all on the local cop with six cops beneath him.

At the end of the day, the police showed up. After that, the sheriff showed up. After that, the state troopers showed up. When did they say, hey, we need to go in? That is a Texas congressman, Uvaldi, trying to unwind what exactly happened and what didn't happen at Robb Elementary.

Conflicting reports now that the sheriff is cooperating or isn't cooperating. Also, the latest on the bipartisan talks towards ending this obscene violence. Number one. I think I was wrong then about the path that inflation would take. As I mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that I at the time didn't fully understand.

Someone must have told her at a young age, talks low, and she's overcompensated. That is the Secretary of Treasury, Janet Yellen. Prices are soaring. The White House is secretly cheering while deflecting all blame when it comes to gas prices to somebody else. Janet Yellen falling on her sword.

The Fed is being blamed for the current. Inflation rate, but yet Larry Summers anticipated it, but no one in government did. We'll talk about the economy shortly, but first let's bring in Andy McCarthy. Andy, I was just as you did ball of collusion. It talked about the plot to rig an election and destroy your presidency.

It almost did. He did accomplish a lot in Donald Trump, despite it. The proof of your book was going to be played out with the Dorm report. How much was lost when Sussman skated?

Well I You know, Brian, I think i in terms of public perception, Um A lot is lost. Because the Democrats don't want anyone to pay any attention to this investigation. And I think on the Republican side, and especially the pro Trump side, I think people feel like if Durham is going to proceed from the premise that the FBI is a victim here rather than a collaborator in what happened. there's not going to be a lot of interest in that because what makes Russia Gate scandalous And this is what I argued in the book. Is the fact that these government agencies were put in the service of Democratic Party.

Politics. if if the government is the victim rather than rather than a culprit in all of this, then you don't really have I mean, you have like dirty politics, right? You're sharp elbowed, nasty politics and the the Clintons can be nastier than most. But you don't have the element of collusion between a political campaign And the government agencies that gather intelligence and enforce the law. That's what makes.

Russia gate a scandal. And if you don't have that, I think people are going to kind of lose interest in it.

So This is the non-legal person talking, just the person who's been following this closely. I don't, I mean, I'm sad for the FBI if they were duped by this. Um if more than one person was duped by this, because what else are they getting duped by? But that's almost something to fix as opposed to something to investigate.

So the fact that if they're doing what the if the suspect gives us information and the FBI goes, oh, really, wink and a nod, air quotes, you're here on your own behalf, gotcha.

So I'll hide your identity and I'm going to ask them to investigate. And then I'm going to, when the FBI, when Clinton minions go to the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal and say, look at this information. And Washington Post, it's the same information about an alpha bank, Russian bank linked to the Trump organization, and they run with it because they want to have an agenda. It doesn't matter. It shows to me an operation to obfuscate and destroy a candidacy and a presidency while lying about it.

And the fact that the FBI was compliant or complicit. Doesn't matter to me. Why does it matter to you?

Well, because I think if it's just the Clinton campaign, making stuff up about Trump. That's kind of par for the course. I mean, it's yes, it's a big political dirty trip. And in the history of presidential campaigns, it'll go down as one of the real you know, nasty political dirty tricks. Uh What separates something from being a dirty trick and puts it into the level of something that actually threatens country is if you have collaboration with the political campaign, By The law enforcement agencies, I mean, you know, you have it with the media to begin with.

Yeah. what made Russia gate different is the fact that the FBI took this information and, for example, went into the FISA court and under oath swore that it was true to get warrants to investigate a sitting President of the United States. What the trial showed That was outrageous. was even after the FBI agents Not the headquarters, the agents that they task with running this stuff down, even after they quickly Refuted it. This AlphaBank information that suggested that Trump had the communications back channel with Putin.

Um Even after the information was seen to be bogus and was debunked, The FBI headquarters said We're not closing it down, open a counterintelligence investigation on the premise that Trump is in cahoots with Putin. That's what makes this really dangerous. you know, the fact that political campaigns Have always and will always Do dishonest stuff and paint their opposition in the worst possible light. is not good. And it's something that unfortunately is an element of our politics and it always will be.

But what made this particularly dangerous is the collaboration of the government. And I think Durham's big problem I mean, obviously, you had a big problem trying to do this case in Washington where you had an Obama appointed judge who let open Democrats sit on the jury. But even putting that aside, if you're going to premise the case on the idea that the FBI is a victim, rather than that they were in cahoots with the Clinton campaign, then I think he's going to have big problems. See, I look at this. If the FBI is naive enough to be victims, we have a bad FBI.

But the fact that they would do this and circumvent national security and openly lie to the FBI, for example, think about how the laptop guy walked into the FBI, his dad did with a laptop, and go, look at this information we got from Hunter Biden. They basically almost accused him like a criminal. If he had lied and made that up and came up with a fake hard drive and handed it over to the FBI and said, look at this. This is Hunter Biden. And Hunter Biden doesn't even have a crack problem.

It doesn't even go on a hooker. It doesn't even have tattoos and made up all this elaborate Russian or Chinese international business deals. Everyone, no one would say the FBI, and the FBI believed it. No one would blame the FBI. They want to get this laptop owner.

Arrested and the people that put him up to are jailed. Why is it different for Hillary Clinton's camp? They're lying to the FBI to launch an investigation. We have a bad FBI if they believed it, and we have a corrupt FBI if they, if they, a bad FBI if they didn't believe it, and if they actually were in cahoots, that means they're corrupt. What's the difference?

Well, I think it's a big difference. You know, if you if you have you know, if they are simply Uh Incompetent. And they're fooled. Uh you can weed out the I'm confident. agents, and hopefully, you get competent ones, and they won't think that when somebody who's obviously tied to Democratic Party politics comes to them six weeks before Election Day, uh conveying Information that just happens to line up completely with the Democratic Party narrative about Trump.

Hopefully, you get smart enough FBI agents who say, no, we can't touch that. They're trying to entangle us in politics. Um You have a much different problem, I'd say not only by degree, but you have a difference in kind kind of problem.

Okay. If the FBI is conspiring with one campaign against another one, that's an enormous problem. That's infecting electoral politics with the coercive power of the government. Yeah, one, I have no hope in the government. I have no hope they're the keystone cops of the FBI.

Number two, that there's a level of the FBI that's flat out corrupt and political, which is terrible. But the meantime, in a million years, if I had to get elected by lying about somebody else and creating an international firestorm and hurting our national security, I would expect to be arrested. What about what the jury foreman said afterwards? The business about we have more important things to deal with in the country than Yeah. Yes, I I think number one, that shows I can't precisely, you know, Sussman's running around saying, you know, I'm glad the jury found that I didn't lie and I was falsely accused.

What the jury it was unavoidable that he didn't tell the truth. I mean, what he told the F B what he told the FBI was wrong.

Now the jury may have found that it didn't make a difference because the FBI wasn't really fooled by it. But to the extent that Sussman's running around saying that he's been vindicated, that he didn't lie, that's ridiculous. And again, the attitude of this juror Shows What is the big problem in terms of how this case was constructed or this trial was constructed or presided over by the judge? This shows the problem. This judge Yeah.

That he could simply tell the jury that neither Hillary Clinton nor Donald Trump was on trial. And that that would somehow make all the political overtones in it go away, so that it would be safe to seek people who were unabashedly pro-Clinton Democrats and anti-Trump. Democrats. And that's crazy. There was no way the government was going to get a fair trial under those circumstances.

And I think the jurors. Statement that, like, there's more important things going on in the world than this case. You know, there's not a juror, unless you're sitting on a case that involves like. you know, the crime of the century. You're always able to say that the case that you happen to be sitting on is not the most important thing going on in the world.

That's not a reason not to apply the law to the facts. It's insane. It's insane and it's insulting.

So will now the Attorney General pull the plug on Durham and this whole investigation, citing this verdict and stop DeShanko from being tried in Virginia? I don't think so. I think that you know, from From Garland's standpoint, Brian, Durham is not going after Biden. He's not accusing the Justice Department of misconduct. They really he's not even accusing the FBI of misconduct.

So You know, I mean, he's narrowly kind of focused this investigation. on the the people who were running the Clinton campaign. To the extent that they created this narrative about Trump and Russia, and he's not saying that that's a crime. I think what he's basically planning with respect to that is to write a narrative report saying that they constructed a major political dirty trick.

So if I'm. Garland and the Justice Department If Garland does anything to interfere with Durham, he's going to get hammered at least in the in in the conservative media, and in the fair minded media, whereas if he does nothing It doesn't look like Durham is any threat to the Justice Department or to Biden.

So why should Garland get involved? Uh don't you uh okay. Uh so Deshan goes next, right? Yeah, that that's uh That's October, and he'll have a better He'll probably have a better chance in the sense that the case will be in the Eastern District of Virginia instead of in Washington DC. But you know, it's still the same thing.

He's h the the theory of the case is that the FBI was duped.

So we'll see what happens. All right, go get him, Andy. Andy McCarthy, thanks so much. Spelling it out. Appreciate it.

1866-408-7669. When we come back, I'll be able to take some of your calls. We'll have a more to know in this, too. And we'll continue to look forward. I want to talk to you about this investigation and what's happening.

I haven't really sunk into that over in Texas.

Now we're getting reports the sheriff is cooperating. Brian Kilmey Show. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. Thought that if you look back on the early days, what we used to think of as conservative versus liberal.

Liberal was pro-free speech. People were open-minded, non-violent, you know, and people were open to other people's ideas. And the right was like suppressive, you know, nanny state, you know, condemn certain language, condemn certain behaviors. That's not the case today. Today, the left has gone so far left, so radical, that the right are the ones that are celebrating comedians and celebrating Chappelle.

They had my back through all the crazy shit that happened with me. It was Fox News that had my back. Would you ever think that they would be the ones to cape for you, like, you know, 10 years ago? I'm so liberal. Yeah.

Like, I talk about it all the time. Like, I say I am not a conservative. I'm not conservative. But I am pro Second Amendment and I am a hunter and I am a cage fighting commentator and I, you know, and I drink and I smoke cigars and I like to bow hunt.

So there's a lot in there that's like, hey, yeah, but it's just being a human. But I'm a compassionate person. That's interesting. I hadn't heard that. You know, with Joe Rogan, you got to sit down for three and a half hours.

That's how long his conversations go. But he's absolutely right. It wasn't gratuitous. People had his back, not because they believed everything he said, but they believe he had the right to say it. And I didn't even know he acknowledged that.

That's kind of interesting that he talked about that. Maybe we should use that on One Nation this weekend. I'm thinking, Allison, I don't know if you're there, but maybe we do something on woke on this whole column I sent you over the weekend.

So, we want to have a producers' meeting right now on the air with everyone to hear. Yeah. So, maybe, do you know that column I sent you? It was in the New York Post? Yes.

Just how it's like: the woke thing is boomerang quickly. And I mean, we bump in. How about we bump in with that? And we just talk about, we don't even have to talk about politics. You just talk about woke and not woke.

Now we got a truly, now we're not even talking about Republican and Democrat. We're not talking about liberal or conservative.

Now we got to go even further. Crazy, insane, crazy, or just logical. Or crazy and not logical. And that whole woke thing at one point was a cool word. You know, I'm woke.

I'm with it. Right now, if you're labeled woke, you have to run for the hills. Maybe we should do that. Do you want to think about it? I like that.

We can incorporate the Bill Maher from last week on transgender kids and things like that. It would be fun. Right.

Okay. Maybe not. Think about it.

Now, am I right that the music gets louder and eventually cuts me off? No, you're wrong with that. You just keep on talking for me. Really?

I think you wait a second. If you're interested in it, Brian's Talking About It. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, we're back everybody. Thanks so much for listening to the Brian Kill Me Show.

We have a lot coming up still in this show. As we wait for hour two, special thanks to Andy McCarthy for joining us earlier. And now we're going to welcome in Danny Dannon, the last, I believe, the 17th UN ambassador from Israel to serve in the United Nations, which also can be a frustrating and challenging position. He also is somebody who has challenged the Kulu Party, has challenged Benjamin Yet Nahu before, and many people think will be a future prime minister, future prime minister of Israel. He's got a brand new book out.

It's called Into the Lion's Den. Danny Dannon, welcome back to the Brian Kilmeat Show. Thank you for having me again, Brian. It's always a pleasure. Yep, the Lions Den, Israel and the World.

Ambassador, first off, have you missed been in being in New York? In New York, yes, the UN, not at all. You know, after a long five years. in this hostile building. I think for me and for my family, it's great to be back in Israel and to speak with you from Jerusalem now.

Right.

And congratulations on doing the book. First off, tell everybody how you got involved in public service.

So, in my new book, In the Lions, then I tell the story of my father. who came to Israel from Egypt in nineteen fifty. At the age of ten, he built a a family and unfortunately he was wounded uh in nineteen sixty nine in the war with Trishan. uh in the Jordan Valley fighting terrorists. And and basically that shaped his life and my life.

You know, we were very uh connected. I got uh involved of learning about the history of the of the State of Israel. traveling the land and through the the desire to to know more about the land, I became involved in even in elementary school, I got involved in in politics, in public life, and I enjoy serving and and representing the country I love so much. Absolutely. So, Ambassador, right now, you're in the Knesset, correct?

So now I have a position. I'm Chairman of World Likud. It's the same party of the Prime Minister Netanyahu. We are in opposition, but we believe that in the near future, we're going to have elections in Israel again. And then probably we'll be able to build a coalition and build a government.

Now, you for a while were challenging the former president of Benjamin Netanyahu. What changed?

So I worked with Prime Minister Netanyahu for five long years when I served as the ambassador to the UN. He was the Prime Minister. And I learned to appreciate his skills and he learned to appreciate my Determination and and we we were able to achieve a lot. You know, when you look back at you know, the Abraham Accord, for example, the the great cooperation we had with Ambassador Nikki Haley and President Trump.

So I think we prove we can be a good team, and that's why today we support him in the party. And we hope that very soon we'll be able to come back to power.

Well, in other words, do you think the Prime Minister has every intention of coming back, or are you thinking that the next time might be your time?

So I know, I know that he wants to come back and I told him that I will not challenge him this time. You know, relatively to him, I'm young, you know, so I have time. And I think that when the time will come, you know, I gained a lot of experience at the UN. In my book, I tell all the stories behind the scenes, you know, how we actually worked with so many Muslim countries quietly, where we we used to meet quietly in New York and at the UN we were ignoring one another. And I think, you know, the experience I gained will help me a lot in my future political career.

What I, you know, what they learned for the long what you learned for the longest time in social studies in history in America is how Israel and the Arabs, I mean, who could possibly see some type of period where they have peace? And then Egypt happens and the assassination of Anwar Sadad, and Jordan is another one that you guys have a treaty with. And all of a sudden, things change dramatically. How much did things change dramatically with people seeing there are good guys and bad guys in the Middle East, and it's not Israel, it's Iran?

So you know, Iran is the source of all evil, but it also brought us together. You know, the connection we have today with the coast countries It has a lot to do with the threat over Iran.

So we we cooperate, we collaborate. Uh we know it's a threat uh for the allies of Israel and the US uh in the region and and I hope you know that the US will not re enter the JCPOA, will not sign an another bad agreement with the Iranians. Unfortunately I think it will happen. you speak a lot uh in your show about what's happening in Ukraine and and Russia. but we have to pay attention to what's happening in Vienna.

The the US and European countries are eager to sign this agreement, no matter what will be in the language of the agreement. For Israel, it is bad news. And basically, it's up to us to deal with the threat of Iran by ourselves. Ambassador, right now we understand Iran has enough uranium to make their own nuclear weapon. And I want you to hear what Ned Price, the State Department spokesperson, said yesterday at Cut 27.

As long as we assess, as we do now, That the deal that is essentially on the table, the technical agreement that is essentially on the table, as long as we assess that its nonproliferation benefits outweigh The gains that Iran has been able to make in recent years in its nuclear program, we will continue to pursue that deal because pursuing it is ultimately in our national interest. I'm embarrassed that he's an American working in our government, but what is your take on his assessment? basically what what we heard that they said, we will sign any document that will be presented to us. And the Iranians hear it also.

So what they are doing now, they demand more.

So at the end of the day, there will be some kind of agreement, but it will allow Iran to continue to export the radical ideas to the proxies in the region, to in which uranium there will be no real inspection.

So it's a joke. It's an unfortunate joke, but that's what it is. Uh and here in Israel, you know, uh we're actually getting ready for the scenario that we will be the one will have to neutralize the threat of Iran. Do you think this U this Israeli government realizes that? I think on this issue, you don't have opposition and coalition.

I think we share the same idea about the fact that we cannot sit idly by. We saw what happened in Europe not so many years ago when you had a radical regime threatening the Jewish people.

So we cannot take the chances that maybe they will do it, maybe they will not do it. We are not there.

So it will be challenging for us. We have a small country, small economy, only nine million people here in Israel, Brian. But we are determined to protect ourselves. And and you know, in the book I write about my connection with um Eli Wizelle of Blessed Memory. And one of the sentences he always told me, he told me, Danny, when you walk into the UN, Always pay more attention to the threats of your enemies than the promises of your allies.

and he survived the Holocaust. And that's exactly what we are doing now. We have to listen more carefully to the threats coming from Tehran than to the promises coming from Washington or the European capitals. How stunning is it, Ambassador? It's hard to Danny Dannon.

He's got his new book out. It talks about Lion's Den, and a lot of it has to do with his service as an ambassador to the United Nations. And many people believe he'll be a Prime Minister of the Future in Israel. I'm one of them. But I can't go inside Israeli politics, but it's not hard to see how much you've achieved so young.

But. Ambassador. Right now. You have a situation where Iran is dealing with Russia because they don't deal directly with us. Why couldn't you possibly rationalize having Russia broker a deal with Iran that's supposedly in our best interests or the West's best interests?

So Basically the Russians are their their own interest, you know, they're they're looking into their economy. And for them, Iran is a very important market to sell weapons and to deal with their energy and to make more money. But I cannot understand why the US is actually allowing the the Russians to be so involved and to have these negotiations between Russia, Iran and the US. But the amba ambassador They actually, part of the deal, I understand it is they take the uranium out of Iran and store it in Russia, and we pay them to do it. That will be only a small portion of the UNU.

I can guarantee you that the majority of the UNUM will stay in Iran and they will produce small UNU.

So basically, it will allow the administration to say we achieved an agreement, we can move on. They will feel good about it, but the substance will not be there. There will be no real agreement that will actually prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear capabilities. Ambassador, when you talk about the Abraham Accords, tell me about the deals that were done and what was next had Trump won reelection.

So In my book in the Lyman was then where I I tell the story when I flew to the UAE. Back in twenty sixteen, I had to do it like incognito. They took me from the plane and made sure nobody saw me there. And look what's happening today. We have fourteen flights a week from Tel Aviv to Dubai.

And now we're opening flights from Tel Aviv to Abu Dhabi. And you see the commercial connections, the culture out. It's amazing to see w what we achieved Uh a little bit more than a year. And we're grateful for the Trump administration for those uh great achievements. I think we have to speak about Saudi Arabia.

I think that they were already to join the agreements.

Now they are not sure about it. If the US will decide to engage and to have a dialogue with them. Hopefully, we will see also the Saudis part of the of the new peace club we have in the Middle East.

So, when people take the Houthi rebels off the terrorist watch list, that angers Saudi Arabia. Why? Houthis are allied with Iran. They're lobbing missiles into Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia responds, and I'm not saying it's in the most surgical way, but when you take sides, you can't turn around and ask them for favors.

You live in the real politic world. They don't have the government that you would want, but you can have relationships with that government because it benefits your country. Can you explain that? Yes, th th in in the Middle East you know you have The bad guys and the good guys. The good guys are not perfect.

You know, you can criticize Israel, you could criticize democracy in Egypt, even in Saudi Arabia. But when you compare it to the alternatives, the radical Islam that is is is getting stronger in the region. Th then you have to support your allies. And I think today what we see today is is the moderate players in the region sitting together, you know, uh Saudis, Egyptians, Israelis, Jordanians, and we are all worried about the the expansion of the radical ideas. You know, the Iranians they don't care about making more money.

They care about exporting the radical ideas uh to different places. Look what happened in Lebanon, what's happening in Syria now. And that's why we we have to continue to collaborate all the moderate players and stand together against the the evil from Iran. What is going to be going to calm down really what will calm things down in the Gaza Strip? Do you ever foresee a day when the border crossing will be less formidable?

Will there be less it will be easier to be done? What has to happen for that to take place?

So I I think we have to realize that, you know, uh today the people in Gaza live under occupation. Not Israeli occupation, but Hamas occupation. We left in two thousand five uh Gaza completely. Hamas took over. And since then the people in Gaza suffer the most and we suffer also because every few months we have to to deal with rockets flying into Israel.

Hopefully the day will come and they will have a new leadership that will be able to lead uh the Palestinians and then they can actually invest in their future. But when you have Hamas, a radical terrorist organization leading Gaza today. I'm not very optimistic about the future though. How do you explain the Democratic Party um Israel, most of the American Jewish community votes Democrat. When you look at the policy towards Israel.

Honest viewers, observers, would say Republicans are a much better ally, especially if you look at Bush and Trump, a much better ally than Obama, Biden. What why did why the disconnect?

So f first you know we which cherish the bypass you don't suppose. It's very important for us. But when every people ask me that question, I say, Listen, we're not getting involved in no politics, we have enough politics in Jerusalem, but you cannot ignore uh Results.

So when you look, you know, when I speak in my book, And I write, you know, very interesting chapter about what Obama did before he left office. the resolution he pushed forward in the Security Council against Israel. He had nothing else to do the week before he left office but to to promote Resolutions, by the way, I revealed it in my book that he wanted to pass two resolutions against Israel, and actually the Russians. They were the one who stopped the second resolution. Uh and and the first resolution they did pass resolution two three three four.

So I think when you look at the results and what happened during the Obama's administration compared to President Trump, we we have to acknowledge the the great achievements, opening the embassy, pulling out from the Iran deal, recognizing the the Goran Heights. Anyone can argue with those facts. I hear you. It's all in his book. Ambassador Dannon, thanks so much.

Thank you, Brian. I look forward to seeing you in New York again and probably a Prime Minister down the road. Danny, thank you. When we come back, I'll take your calls 1866, 408-7669. This is the Brian Killmeat show.

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You are the hardest man, working man I know in New York. Wow, that's huge. Boom. Brian Killmead. Wow, I'm uh your recall and ability to put this stuff together, I could almost remember all those different incidents.

And I do talk about my body a lot. Um you finding that, Allison, in your research or Eric? Oh, you talk about your body a lot. We didn't even do the um tight shirt montage, which I'm sure Eric could pull together if we give him five minutes, 'cause you also like to talk about men in tight shirts. If you didn't know that already.

Well, when people are fit, I point that out, and you think that that is bad. No, I don't think it's bad. You just always make. What's my what's my line? There are so many lines.

I guess, for instance, thinking right off the top of my head, I think we were just watching a clip. On the T on the screen of like Anderson Cooper from the night before, you're like, that's a tight shirt. Here's comments: it's amusing. It makes us all giggle behind the glass. I understand.

A couple of things. Do you think I should not be doing that? Should I not point out to another man when they're fit? No, I think it's a positive thing. I think, you know, commenting on someone's, you know, Health and things.

I think, look, I'm also one that I think you should give a compliment when you think it, right? Oh, you look very nice to that. It's a nice dress. Whereas some other people are a little overly paranoid about that, that it's getting taken the wrong way. But I think.

If you think You know, wanna give someone a compliment, you give it, regardless of them looking good in a tight shirt or if a dress is pretty. But do you work with the shirt off? Because all these guys, we they never have shirts on. I did notice some of the guys tend to be very well built. I see some of them without shirts on.

Shirtless guys with spray cans. And I did see guys without shirts on last summer in particular. Yeah. So you did have it.

So I actually lied though. You're talking there about men without shirts. Right.

Not tight shirts.

So again, you were inaccurate and you lied. Like Janet Yellen. Janet Yellen said she was wrong about inflation, and you were wrong about my shirt comments.

Sometimes I talk about shirtless. I love being in the same category as Janet Yellen. Yes, but you talk a little bit quicker. And don't pronounce every syllable. And you don't mumble when I speak.

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I told the truth to the FBI. And the jury clearly recognized that with their unanimous verdict today. Despite being falsely accused, I'm relieved that justice ultimately prevailed in my case. Right.

You skated. Sussman skates by the Durham Probe fights on. To me, this is a failure of the jury, not the prosecution. Sussman was caught lying, and a friendly jury said, so what? Number two.

Uh listen. Active shooter protocols say you go in. We're putting it all on the local cop with six cops beneath him. At the end of the day, the police showed up. After that the sheriff showed up, after that the state troopers showed up, when did they say, hey, we need to go in?

That was a state lawmaker, Rowan Gutierrez Uvaldi, trying to unwind what exactly happened inside Robb Elementary amid conflicting reports of cooperation from the man in charge, the sheriff, who was sworn in as a city council member. Also, the latest on the bipartisan talks towards ending the obscene violence. They're talking some type of gun legislation. We'll discuss. Number I think I was wrong then about the path that inflation would take.

As I mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that I at the time didn't fully understand. Now she does. I wish she would just slow down just a little bit. Prices are soaring. The White House is secretly cheering while deflecting blame.

Elsewhere, the study shows you're adjusting your shopping, dining, and driving patterns because of inflation. I want to get your take on that. And the White House has an idea of who to blame, anyone but them. Join me now is Will Hurd, who spent the weekend doing something really important, visiting Uvalde, seeing what was happening with the investigation and seeing the obscene loss they're experiencing in the morning that's taking place. Former Texas Congressman Will Hurd, author of American Reboot, welcome back, Will.

Hey, Brian, it's always a pleasure to be on with you, my friend.

So you know the area, you know the people, you certainly know the state, and you've also experienced real life in and around your two years in the CIA. Can you give our listeners a sh a sense of what's happening in Uvalde? Yeah, well right now this week, you have a number of parents Prematurely burying their kits. We had two yesterday, I think there's four today. I was down there this weekend.

I represented UVA for six years in Congress, then going back there for 10 years plus. And what people have to realize with a small community like this It's everybody knew everybody. And so the grieving is not just. You know, immediate family. It's everybody in the community knew those kids.

You know, they were in baseball practice together. And so it really is having an impact. And then not only are you having to deal with a parent bearing their kid, you're also trying to figure out what happened. And what happened? How do you prevent this from happening in the future?

What, you know, we had presumptions of what happened in the very beginning. It's changed multiple times.

So the community just has a ton of questions on top of grieving. And it's a terrible situation. And look throughout Texas. And, you know, a lot of schools are, this is the last week. You have parents asking, is my community prepared for something like this.

How do we prevent a community from having to get to this point? And so these are many of the questions that folks are grappling with today.

So when you look at the investigation and Sheriff Ariando, now they say it was erroneously reported that he is not cooperating. He says he is cooperating. But his idea was: hey, you know what? The shooting has stopped. It's a barricade situation.

Let's take our time going back in. Our two guys got grazed when they went in immediately. He's got a lot of firepower. But we do know now that these kids were bleeding out, some of which could have been saved. What does that lead you to say?

Well it It's so The initial information, and again, this is initial information, this is why an investigation is important. The initial information is that there was a lot of mistakes that were made. There's no question about that. When you have kids in the school calling, that gets to someone. And Erredondo, he he's actually the chief of police for the Uvalde Independent School District.

And this is important to know because there were so many different. Let me call it flavors of law enforcement that showed up and that was there for a long period of time.

So it was the law enforcement for the school district. Law enforcement for the city, you value the police department. You had DPS, the Department of Public Safety. That is the state law enforcement. And then you had some of the individuals from Border Patrol and stuff that showed up as well to show a helping hand.

And it was ultimately a Border Patrol officer off duty that went in and resolved the situation.

So the tactics, techniques, and procedures in dealing with one of these kinds of shooting is very clear. Everybody goes in and you don't stop. And so we got to figure out what decisions were being made, who participated in those decisions, why did everybody follow said decision? How were they getting updated information at the time?

So there's a whole lot of questions. And part of this. Look, you know, I I spent Almost a decade as an undercover officer in the CIA. I worked very closely with not only our military, but federal law enforcement. The role of law enforcement is important, and they're there to take care of us.

That's why we throw parades for them. They have a very hard job, but they also have a level of accountability and should be held higher to account. And so we need to understand this not only for the The 21 families that are grieving because they're burying their loved one or their child. But we also need to make sure how do we learn from this in the future so that we can be better prepared for when, unfortunately, something like this happens again.

So, I want you to hear from Jake Alvarado. He is a CBP agent who ran into the shooting, ran into their borrowed a gun and went in. He knew his daughter was in there, and his wife wanted to see what's going on. Here's what he told Laura last night: cut 11. My daughter's fine for the most part.

She still has. Friends that have passed. My wife is the one that's really affected because she was. right there by the shooter. The shooter bypassed her room and shut up the rooms.

on the opposite side and my wife lost.

Some of her close friends. And one teacher who's trying to get the door closed didn't get it closed and locked fast enough. And that is Jacob Alvarado, whose wife's a teacher there. And of course, they had a big celebration that day for a graduation that came out. We're going to get all those that play by play of it.

But there's also reports that the police chief might not even have had a radio to hear any of this. The question is, Will, if you show up with your experience and your Bore Tech, the Bore-Tech guys evidently still didn't get the ghost sign. They were just tired of waiting. They grabbed the Marshall Shield and they went into a stack and just took over the building. They never got the ghost sign from this guy.

At what point do you break command? Look, I think if you get on scene, high type is 2020, Brian, right? But you get on scene, you go immediately, right? You break command immediately. And if you have some situational awareness and a little bit of evidence to suggest that there are still kids that are in there, then you go in immediately.

And the only way, you know, because if they're saying that kids weren't there, right, that this was a barricade situation and there was no kids there, how did they have that information, right? They got some kind of information.

So to me, that is immediate. You go in and confirm this. And look, in that clip from Officer Alvarado, These are the When you have to use DNA to identify someone, that is because it is a horrific image and the mutilation is just unbelievable. These are the images that these kids and these teachers are going to have to live with for the rest of their life. And this is going to have an impact on them for a really long time.

And so imagine 9-10. I think there were some kids that were 11 that were there. That this was the experience. And how do we make sure that this, you know, this doesn't end this week or next week for these kids and for these teachers? This is going to live with them forever.

Look, the folks in Sutherland Springs, another mass shooting that happened, I think it was 2018, I might be off a year. Um Those communities are still receiving mental health treatment. In the city of Uvalde, there was only one mental health professional. I know that because I helped get it when I was in Congress. And so the resources that this community is going to need in order to deal with this is going to be pretty significant.

Absolutely. So the question is now, there's a bipartisan, and I know that you wrote your book about this, there's a bipartisan Zoom call going on. They're trying to framework out something before June 6th when Congress comes back. Lindsey Graham, evidently, and Blumenthal working on some type of red flag legislation. And then other people, like the President of the United States, wants to get rid of assault weapons.

He indicated he walked that back, as usual, that he does not want to get them nine millimeters. But most Republicans, and I thought most Americans, want to immediately harden the target when it comes to schools. But his new press secretary feels differently, Cut 14. I know there's been conversation about hardening schools. That is not something that he believes in.

He believes that we should be able to give teachers the resources to be able to do the job that they're meant to do at schools. And this is something that he's been focusing on since he was the vice president. I don't even know what that means, but why would you be against increasing security in schools? Look, I don't know why somebody would say that. This is a problem that has this is a multifactorial problem.

And oftentimes, when this happens, everybody runs to their corner and talks about their one thing. And not one thing is going to solve all of these problems. Not one thing would have prevented the, what, 200 and almost 50, I believe, mass shootings that have happened since in the last 30-ish years. I know since 2009, there has been more killings in mass shootings in the United States than we've had a military killed in combat zones in Afghanistan. This is the numbers that we're doing.

There's not one solution.

So we need to be doing multiple things. There's a group, the only group that I know that has really studied mass shootings for a significant period of time is called the Violence Project. And two researchers, they've looked at every mass shooting since 1966. They've interviewed people that were there. And look, they found that there's four similarities across Across these shootings, if there's some kind of childhood trauma, there's a crisis point where somebody, you know, the flip in their head, the switch in their head flips, right?

They have a script to follow, they mimic other attacks, they have some entity or community to blame, and then they have the opportunity to carry out the attack. We have to be addressing each one of those things. And yes. And I need to get better language to explain this. In the intelligence business, the attack cycle is the same.

And you try to influence the attack before the attack happens. That's being left of boom is how we refer to it.

So we should be doing everything we can to prevent that situation. But guess what? We're not going to always get it right.

So we have to be ready to make sure that our facilities are prepared and hardened and protected. We need to make sure that the folks that are tasked with protecting our kids in these places have the right training and experience and resources to deal with these things. Because we again, UValdi is proving out that not being ready after, once the attack happens, could still lead to is going to lead to significant loss of life. Understood. Wilhurt, always great to talk to you.

Your expertise is very needed and missed in Congress. Do you see yourself ever going back? Look, I'm 44 years old, turned 45 this summer. My political career is probably not over, but when the opportunity is right, I'll evaluate it. Will Hurd, the author of American Reboot, and Idealist's Guide to Getting Big Things Done.

Thanks so much, Will. Appreciate it. Thanks, brother. Talk to you soon. You got it.

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Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Killmee Show. My biggest concern is that the jury foreman came out and really gave up, you know, what the jury was discussing, which is that they thought this case should have never been brought to their attention in the first place. And that's a little concerning because this looks more like a jury nullification, where even though the evidence was overwhelming, even though the government proved their case, that the jury just decided that this wasn't a case worth pursuing, and therefore they were, you know, and remember, 12 of them voted unanimously not guilty.

So that means that, you know, even though the evidence says we know it, which is he, you know, send that text message, but he had also gone up and testified on Capitol Hill under oath that he was representing a client and his billing record showed that.

So, I mean, this case to me, factually and legally, was a slam-dunk case. But as I had said earlier, leading up to this jury verdict, this jury was going to be very difficult for Durham and his team to get a conviction. Former Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker bringing up the fact that the jury Jury said, Well, this wasn't worth my time. Can you believe it, the jury foreman? Not worth my time.

If it gets to you, it's worth your time. It's already been through the screening process. Thank very much, fundamental average everyday juror who might have been one of the three in the jury pool who couldn't support her.

So the one who fundraised for AOC, or the judge who had a relationship, or the judge who had a relationship, we believe, excuse me, Sussman had a relationship. Their daughters play on the same softball team or same soccer team or one of those teams. I mean, all these things usually get you kicked off a jury, but in D.C., you can't find anybody that's not biased against Republicans. Here is Aline Haba. She was on Han Day last night.

She's the attorney for President Trump, Cut 18. The key of this case, in my opinion, was not necessarily getting a guilty verdict for assessment. He is such a small player in this. He was, frankly, the lowest of the barrel as far as I'm concerned. What we got was the evidence, and I think that was the key.

Durham was trying to put out evidence that there was a text message. And I do want your viewers to remember: the text message that came out by the general counsel Baker only came out after the indictment in 2021.

So the judge actually did not allow that to be considered when they decided his verdict today. That was critical. He had a lot of bad decisions by Judge Cooper, who, by the way, has a relationship with Lisa Page in some regard.

So that's also concerning. Yeah, I mean a lot of cross uh cross-pollination. Logic tells you, I love these people that say they're just exonerated. Suspin knows how guilty he is, and anyone who looks at this case knows that Durham's got a lot of substance there. Hope he can finish the job.

That's the key. We come back, Stephen Moore, on the economy. It's how it's affecting you and where it's heading now. And Larry Summers has just weighed in. The former Secretary of Treasury with Obama, who predicted what's happening.

We'll find out what he thinks about recession. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. I think that is the lesson of history. Here's the unfortunate, painful fact, and it's true of the U.S.

experience, and it's true of the experience of other rich countries like us. When inflation's above four and unemployment's below four, you are almost certain to have a recession within the next two years. We may somehow find a way of beating the odds at having a soft landing. But it would be a historic counterexample, not a historic norm, if that proves to be true. That was today, Larry Summers today, talking about the fact that he was 100% right, that the rescue plan of $1.9 trillion was unnecessary and just put this whole inflation on hyperspeed, which we're witnessing right now, not transitory.

I played it for you last block. Janet Yellen coming out saying I was wrong about the path of inflation. She said that supply chain and other things happened, large shocks to the system. She said she was wrong. Everybody's saying they're wrong, so the president could say not my fault.

He says it's really up to the Fed. And one of his great things that he's doing is letting the Fed do its thing. Is that the right move? Steve Moore joins us right now. Economist extraordinaire.

There's nothing he can't do. Steven, is Larry Summers right here when you look at those raw numbers? Are we heading to a recession?

Well, let's hope not. I pray we don't go into recession, Brian, because I've lived through seven recessions in my lifetime and they cause real pain and misery. But this inflation is just is not alleviating. And by the way, I saw an interesting story today. I don't know if you guys have reported this at Fox News yet, that some of the service stations, have you heard about this?

They have to put another digit on the they have to put another digit on the on the gas pumps. Yep. So when we hit $10, I shouldn't be laughing, I should be crying. But that's how bad the inflation was. Brian, do you know what the you guys have reported this facts?

The gas price when Trump left office was about $2.59 a gallon.

Now we're paying I just paid $5.50 a gallon.

So almost a doubling in my gas price. $2.50 a gallon more. That's that means I'm paying thirty, thirty five, forty dollars more for a fill up. This is the worst inflation we've had since Jimmy Carter was in office. No question.

And they admit it. But Janet Yellen admits she was wrong. Here she is, cut two. Yep. I think I was wrong then about the path that inflation would take.

As I mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that have boosted energy and food prices and supply bottlenecks that have affected our economy badly that I didn't at the time didn't fully understand. But we recognize that now. Right.

Do you feel better now that you recognize it? And what do you think they're going to do? The President says you can't blame me, and I'm not going to talk to the Fed. I'm not going to deal with the Fed. I'm going to keep my hands off.

Although they met yesterday.

Well, you know, Brian, what's infuriating about that statement is you may recall, I don't know, 12, 13, 14 months ago, I was on your show saying, hey, if they pass these $3, $4 trillion of spending bills, we're going to have inflation as sure as the sun comes up from the east and rises, you know, and sets in the west. I mean, it was obvious. And I wasn't the only one. Larry Kudlow, even Larry Summers, who's a Democratic economist, said that you're going to have runaway inflation if you do this.

So why was she so surprised by this? Janet Yellen, by the way, has been the biggest disappointment. When I saw all of the Biden appointments, most of them were just crazy left-wing ideologues, but I thought at least Janet Yellen is a pretty sensible economist. But she's drunk the Kool-Aid over there in this White House, and all she's doing is parroting what the green energy people are saying about how, and it's not. This is the other thing that makes me so angry.

When Joe Biden said yesterday in that Wall Street Journal piece, and he said it. A hundred times in the last few months. I'm doing everything I can to reduce gas prices. That's a lie, Brian. Everything they're doing is to raise gas prices.

They this was part of the plan to force people to stop using fossil fuels because they're evil and they're destroying the planet. Yeah, here is Larry Kudlow on that whole thing because we're not ready for the transition. If it was queued up and everything was there for us and we just chose not to get it, that's an interesting debate. But instead, you're quietly cheering the rise in fossil fuel prices. Cut five.

Biden's article in the Wall Street Journal today that was the talk of the town had no new inflation plan, anti-inflation plan. It had nothing. I mean, what he's setting us up here is for his vision, this woke vision, of a fossil-free economy, which is going to do enormous damage to the economy. It'll put it in a permanent recession. It'll cause millions of job losses and rising unemployment.

So, and the thing is, if you tell the American people I'm doing everything I can, but we also know different. And we know the oil and gas companies got to start speaking up for themselves and saying, Yeah, I'm not going to drill on this land. There's no financing for it. You know it's all going to be temporary, and they're going to be stuck basing my model on oil and gas prices that are way too high. When they come down, my whole country, my company is going to go bankrupt.

Yeah, I mean, there's no question. And don't forget, folks, that the very first act in office of Joe Biden was to kill the Keystone Pipeline. We need pipelines for our energy development. I mean, it is heartbreaking to me because when I used to talk to Trump about energy policy from the start of when he started running for president, he always talked about how we can become energy independent and energy dominant. And we were, that's the thing, Brian.

You go back 15 months ago, we were an exporter. But, Steve, when people say it's a global price, a global commodity, they don't look at that. What do you tell them?

Well, it is a global commodity, but the fact that the gas price is, you know, the oil price is now $115 a barrel, why aren't we producing more of it here at home? Make more. We're losing half a billion dollars a day, Brian. A half a day. Billion a day because we're not producing it here in Oklahoma, in North Dakota, in Texas, in Alaska.

Instead, we're getting it from Russia and Iran and Saudi Arabia. But the other thing he said in that piece, I mean, Larry's absolutely right about the energy policy, but then his other plan to deal with high prices was more green energy subsidies. I'm like, come on, that's what you know how much of our energy today comes from possible from wind and solar power, Brian? How much? Six percent.

Six.

So how in the world are we really going to solve this problem with windmills?

Well, you get how about the fact that the European Union doesn't want their windmills. They're saying, okay, let's go renewables. They don't want their windmills and solar panels. It messes up their countryside, and they have been too erratic.

Now they're going to go back, it seems, to nuclear. I'm not sure if you're hearing that, but this is all revolving around trying to get Russian oil and gas.

So, just for people listening right now, you know, Steve Moore can talk big, macro, and micro and talk about how this affects the family. Inflation disrupts the American savings plans. 36% have said that. 21% have reduced retirement savings. How Americans are offsetting the increase in the cost of living.

42% are changing how they shop. 46% are either dining out less or consciously spending less. 31% are driving less. 23% are spending less on vacations. 22% are taking measures such as canceling subscriptions to gyms and cable and other things like that.

And here's the other thing: because we can't get anybody to work, U.S. robot orders have surged 40% because of labor shortages. As I said, as I read you all those numbers, because the American consumer responds to the challenges they have, correct? They're not going to wait around for the government to solve their problems. They're changing their lifestyles.

They are. And, you know, when you pay more for gasoline, it just ricochets throughout the economy. And, you know, I think it was about two or three weeks ago we talked about this on Fox and Friends, and I mentioned the 8 to 8.5% inflation. And I can't tell you how many angry emails and letters I got from people saying, Steve Moore, stop saying 8% to 8.5% inflation. And people said, I'm not paying 8% and 8.5% more.

I'm paying 20% more. I'm paying 60% more for my gas. I'm paying 40% more for my air conditioning and electric bills. I'm paying 35% more for fruits and vegetables and beef. I'm paying more for my rent.

So the real inflation, Brian, that average middle-class Americans are paying to pay for their essentials, food, medicine, energy, tuition, those costs are up way more than 8.5%.

So I think we're understating how bad the inflation is for working-class Americans. I want you to hear what else Larry Summers said. Listen. I think the consensus last spring was wrong. The consensus didn't see the overheating risk.

I've been wrong plenty of times in my life, but I did see that there was a very substantial demand pressure that was building, and it seemed plausible given that, that there would be bottlenecks. But I think in fairness to Secretary Yellen and in fairness to the Federal Reserve, what they were echoing was a consensus view of economists at that time. That consensus has turned out to be wrong. And I think that does require some rethinking of conventional models among the economists who do these forecasting, nowhere more important than the Fed, which is why I talked about the need for some institutional soul searching there. But I think the important issue is looking forward and Yeah, and he went on to say he thinks that the corporate tax cut that Trump gave, he said was a boon to corporate America, some of that should go up again.

And there should be global cooperation on raising the corporate tax rate. What's your thought on that? No, I mean, that's look, Larry Summers has he's a Democratic, you know, economist, and he's in, but he's an honest one. And I disagree with him on the corporate tax cut. As you know, I helped put that plan together with Larry Kudlow and Trump and others.

And we actually sucked capital in from the rest of the world. We want to be the low-tax country in the world, just like Florida wants to be the low-tax state, right, Brian? And so let's make the United States the Florida of the international economy. But. Look, I think it's interesting when he says it talks about the consensus because my whole life, I've been in this business for 40 years, Brian, and you've been in the game a long time too, is taking on the consensus because so many times the consensus is wrong.

It's like when they say, oh, you know, everybody agrees there's climate change and blah, blah, blah. And folks, you know, there's so many times when the consensus opinion is wrong. And that's why we have to be open-minded in this idea of trust the science.

Well, all science now is political. It's all political, Brian. I mean, that's what's so frustrating to me. But I'll tell you one thing. I really honestly believe, and I'm biased because I work for Trump.

I think the economy would be booming right now if Donald Trump were president. With COVID basically coming to an end and the businesses reopening, people going to theaters, people are going to restaurants again. We shouldn't be in this situation today. I know. I know.

Americans are still spending, but they're about to feel it. But no, no prices. People are scrambling to get houses right now because they think interest rates are going up, and they are. Everybody's recommending that's the way you stop inflation to raise interest rates. But there's going to be a stoppage on the housing boom, right?

That's going to curtail some of the prices. Yes, logic would tell you that. And sooner or later, we're going to look around and say, Yeah, I did get that raise, but it's not as much as the inflation.

So I'm going to have to calm down. And you know, on a minor point, if you tried to travel this weekend and just found out your flights were canceled, not because of weather, it's because they couldn't staff, you're not only saying to yourself, Is it worth the headache of making plans and having these airlines just cut me out? And then I'm stuck with my days off or problems and the stress. You add all that together with the price of occasions. A lot of people, this could really ripple into the economy.

And I hope it doesn't. But, you know, with a supply chain, you can't get baby formula. People are wondering where stuff is when you go to get a soft top for your car and you got to wait eight weeks for it where you used to be eight hours. Yeah. Everywhere you go, it's a little bit of a challenge.

Well, Brian, I don't recall these supply chain problems. Do you, when Donald Trump was President?

So this is a result of a faulty economic policy. And the only one thing I might just disagree a little bit on, you're right, the Fed has to raise interest rates, but the best way To solve inflation is do what Reagan did when he took over from Carter: cut taxes, cut regulation, increase the supply of products, right? Because when you have more goods and services, guess what happens to their price? They go down. Right.

Uh supply.

Well, we just have nothing to flood it with. We have no supply, Steven Moore. Exactly. That's why they call us supply centers. And Reagan was a supply center, Laffer, Larry Kudlow, me.

We believe we can increase the production in this country. That's why let's go all in on energy, Brian. Let's produce our oil, our gas, our coal, our nuclear power, everything we got. I know, but it seems as though we have a guy in the White House who's at war with his own communications team, let alone solving our problems. Stephen Moore, thanks so much.

Appreciate it. Okay, Brian, have a great week. Take care. You got it. When we come back, we'll find out if there's a need to know more.

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I mean, that has got to be aggravated. If you had a red heiney, wouldn't you be a little upset? Exactly. Now, suddenly it all makes sense. Oh, my butt sore.

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Okay. More to know. Netflix CEO Reed Hastings' wife and hedge fund heiress Liz Simons back hyper-woke LA City Council candidate, this 32-year-old who wants to abolish the police despite living hundreds of miles away. Patty Quinlan and Liz Simons paid $85,000 for that campaign for Eunice Hernandez, who is running for city council 400 miles from where they both live. Of course, they don't care about their own, they don't care about their own security.

They have their own security. Simon lives in an $18 million mansion, which President Obama visits in 2013 for a fundraising brunch. Hastings and his wife live in Santa Cruz, 340 miles away. That's sickening, isn't it? It is.

Yeah, let's promote the candidates absolutely on the extremes, but won't impact them at all.

Next. Canada is decriminalizing cocaine and MDMA for three years amid an overdose crisis. The move aims to encourage drug addicts to seek help and free up police time.

So, do Coke. I'm not going to arrest you, but if you have some time, in between snorting, go get rehab. Is that the theory? I think so, but basically they also want to take away all of the guns.

So do the drugs, no guns. And destroy the truckers. Exactly. Great task, Lou. Three in four Americans have recently suffered an injury while working out, a new study suggests.

They looked at 2,000 people. They said seven in 10 abandoned their fitness regimes because of the pandemic. 88% are determined to return in the pre-pandemic form.

However, half, that's 56%, say an injury in the past year is to blame for not getting back. Do you think people are faking the industry, the injury? I feel like maybe not faking, but like maybe embellishing. Like, oh, I just don't want to hurt my ankle. I'm sorry, the pandemic was the best time to get in shape.

People had more time than ever. You're not commuting to work. You're just at home.

So, I mean. I know people sat home and just ordered and ate more food, but. But you know what people have said? If you want something done, give it to a busy person. When you have a lot of free time, you tend to put it off.

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