PTSD DOES NOT HAVE TO BE UNBEARABLE, audio version

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But just before it's too late, God steps in and we hear his calling. Today's guest is Dr. Kashi Hassan, who will help us discuss all the aspects of PTSD, also known as post-traumatic stress disorder and alternative methods. Dr. Kashi Hassan is a medical director of My Ketamine Home, helping many people to live better lives despite their diagnosis of depression or PTSD. Dr. Kashi, welcome to The Cure.

You're now live. Hi, Amy. Very nice to speak with you today. My pleasure. Dr. Kashi, can you tell us a little bit about PTSD?

Sure. So PTSD is a disorder that we categorize people who have dealt with a traumatic experience or significant stress. They develop a couple of symptoms that it really impacts the quality of their life. I think people who dealt with this condition can relate to this. Those symptoms can be flashbacks. You can feel dissociated from your body.

You can feel the physical stress of it, increased heart rate. And then what that does is it causes you to avoid a lot of situations and a lot of the people or places that might trigger something like that. And afterwards, you will have some negative changes in your thoughts. You kind of lose interest in the things that you used to love doing.

You lose your sense of self-worth. It's a very debilitating condition. So someone with PTSD, it can lead to depression, of which it can really debilitate their way of life, making them angry, irritable, not wanting to do anything.

And the worst part of all, it can lead to suicide. So PTSD can be a very serious thing. In fact, are you aware of the prevalence, Dr. Kossi, in the U.S.?

Yeah. I think the prevalence is somewhere around 7 to 8 percent, at least 7 to 8 percent of people deal with PTSD at one point in their lives. Out of 100 people, I believe. Yeah, 7 to 8 percent.

7 to 8 percent. Wow. So but not everyone that experiences a traumatic experience will get PTSD, correct?

Yeah, that's right. And that's a really interesting point. Everyone has a different resilience to trauma. Some of that could be genetic. Some of it could be the social support and the environment around you to help you heal from those types of events. And there's a few risk factors for developing PTSD. But yeah, it's true. Not everyone who deals with trauma develops the disorder.

And it's hard to know exactly who will and who will not. So if somebody develops PTSD, I understand it can be situational. It can also be chronic. But once you have PTSD, is it a life sentence or is it something that can resolve? Does it depend on the severity?

Yeah, it depends on a lifetime sentence. There's so many different ways of healing from trauma. And I'm happy to have the opportunity today to be able to talk to you about a few ways that people can heal. And it's a disorder that comes up in the way that we think, we feel. It has physical manifestations. And the ways in improving those symptoms and even curing PTSD, there's many, many different ways to address the problem. Some practitioners focus on dealing with the body, breath work, movement, meditation.

These all kind of make us more aware of the physical sensations that arise in our body. And that's definitely one way to start to heal from PTSD. There's the medicines that have been helpful.

And then there's the therapy, you know, to kind of be able to resolve the underlying trauma and to really be able to, you know, to think through and to release the emotional energy and the scars underneath PTSD. How about kids? Kids, do they experience PTSD and do they experience it differently? Are their symptoms different? How can parents recognize it?

How can parents recognize PTSD? That's a great question. I don't know if I have an answer for you. I don't know how it presents differently in children compared to adults. That's interesting.

I haven't thought about that. I did a little bit of reading on it. You know, if the kids wetting their bed after they've learned not to wet their bed, I mean, obviously, if you see irritability or bad performance in school, but just any unusual behaviors could be reason to look into it to see if the child is suffering from depression or PTSD. But that's another thing that I'd like to talk about. You know, some people don't know the difference between depression and PTSD. And it could be quite similar. It can mimic one each other because PTSD comes with depression. And then there's depression by itself. And, you know, depression is something that's very difficult as well. From what I understand, especially being someone that has PTSD, is that with PTSD, your depressions are just a little bit more severe.

Am I correct? Yeah, it definitely can be. You know, PTSD has kind of its own criteria for diagnosis. It shares some aspects with depression. When we think of depression, of course, we think of, you know, a depressed mood. You know, it's the emotions of feeling sad, having low self-worth. Other things that people feel is a lack of pleasure. Well, that's what I want to talk about.

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People should know what you're taking, like what are you on with all this nice dancing in mind? We're talking to Dr. Hassan about PTSD. Yes we are. Dr. Ghazi, is PTSD situational or chronic?

Once someone develops PTSD, can it resolve or is it something we just have to learn to live with? I think we are having you now. I think that. Are you able to hear me? Yes.

That's a great question. There's parts of PTSD that are definitely situational. When people have some kind of, you know, there's some kind of environmental cue that would normally be for someone without PTSD, just kind of a neutral sound or neutral environment, it is a trigger for someone with PTSD that kind of brings them back to the moment of the trauma. And it just kind of stimulates all of the physiology of stress. And that's kind of what's going on with people whose bodies adapted in that way.

And so it's a maladaptive, you know, there's no reason for your body to have that kind of reaction to a normal thing. So, you know, kind of treating PTSD is sort of dissociating the trigger and, you know, the feelings that you have after. So there's a lot of therapies kind of designed specifically to treat PTSD.

But if you can, if you can kind of get to rewire your body to not react so negatively to neutral situations, that's the cure. And what is the symptom criteria that you need to meet to be diagnosed with PTSD? From what Boris tells me is that you can have PTSD, but not meet the criteria to be diagnosed. You can have, well, you know, I'll mention a couple of things that you think about when you think about PTSD. One is, you know, intrusive symptoms. So intrusive symptoms can be flashbacks. You know, you go back to the moment in time where the trauma happened. Dissociation where you, you know, you're in an environment that becomes stressful and then you just like feel like you're out of your body.

Obviously, you can feel like the physical symptoms of stress, you know, increased heart rate, sweating, lightheadedness. And then a lot of people have, you know, very vivid dreams, nightmares, very distressing. And then because of all this, people learn to avoid situations that put them there. And so a lot of people, they can be less outgoing. You know, it's also characterized with negative changes in thought and, you know, a change in arousal. You know, people might have difficulty concentrating. They might be startled easily, become irritable or aggressive, have trouble sleeping.

So there's a lot of things there. And, you know, PTSD, the diagnosis, you know, obviously has to be made by, you know, qualified medical professionals. You know, because there might be a lot of organic reasons why people might have some of these symptoms, you know, but the constellation of symptoms.

And so with a specific trigger might give you a clue. OK, so and you have to have the symptoms more than a month. They have to be persistent for at least a month and has to occur at least two times within a year, right?

Two times? There has to be two incidences. DSM. Yeah, there's the DSM criteria that's like very specific. You know, the DSM is they're designed to give psychiatrists a uniform language to talk about constellations of symptoms that they see. And so, yeah, you'll get those very specific criteria from the DSM where it says that it has to fit into this box to be called something.

But, you know, it's the it's more of a you know, in clinical practice, it could be a little bit more dynamic. You know, you just kind of look at the entire clinical picture. Right.

You look like the entire person. You look at the person. Exactly. What is the person going through? Oh, I was just reading that there is a study about some brain biomarkers that identify risk of severe PTSD.

So interesting. So much the study, I guess, and the medicine is advancing. Yeah, I can, you know, I think that that is really interesting if, you know, because PTSD is such a wide range of symptoms, there's probably not one uniform like there's not one common or not one single pathway that is involved in the neurobiology of the condition. But one thing we definitely know about states of chronic stress and even PTSD is that chronic stress causes neural atrophy. The atrophy is, you know, weakened neural connections over time. And one of the ways that we know the patterns that we see in the brain with chronic stress is we see decreased number of synapses in the same brain region than compared to healthy, healthy people. So what's happening is that, you know, there's a just, you know, global phenomenon in the brain that the connections that you have from one region to another, all the ways that the neurons talk to each other, those connections weaken over time. And there's some disorders in, you know, the primary neurotransmitter between neurons, which is glutamate. So there's a dysfunction in, you know, the growth factors and the neurotransmitters and the physical connections in the brain that happen when chronic stress.

So it's not just one inventing it. And not only that, it's a very serious topic, especially with the crazy times that were going on these days, because in doing some research myself, I realized that a person can develop PTSD and doesn't even have to experience the traumatic event. It can be a friend or something that they've seen happen to someone else. And, and it's, it's, it's something that can just happen to anyone. In fact, I feel like I'm getting PTSD from what I'm seeing on TV these days. Yeah, I don't have to experience it. We were talking with Robbie earlier today too, about all these poor people that are closed in nursing homes that nobody gets to see them.

Imagine the level of stress and anxiety that they're going through. So when we return, we're going to find, we're going to talk about ways to help, what treatment options there is available, and how we can help one another, how we can learn more about it. We'd love to hear from you. This is Amy Cabo and The Cure.

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Wow, you're poised again. We're talking to Dr. Kasi Hassan discussing PTSD. Which is post-traumatic stress disorder for whoever doesn't know. Dr. Kasi, I wanted to discuss, we're going to go into treatment options, but I wanted to discuss complex PTSD. There's a difference between PTSD. Is that in DCM? I don't even know. That's fairly new. They just discovered there's a more serious PTSD.

Can you tell us a little bit about that? Or if not, I can. I have it. We have you.

Go ahead, Doc. From what I know about complex PTSD, and please, you can elaborate on the newest categorization, but it's just PTSD that comes up from severe, chronic, extremely threatening trauma. It can be trauma of any kind, but it's just in the severity of the case.

Can you elaborate further on that? Right, and the repeatability gets repeated through a longer period of time. Well, complex PTSD, I think it's developed when it's long-term trauma. It's constant exposure to the trauma over long-term. And it just means that PTSD is chronic. It's not something that is just going to resolve such as situational depression.

And it's something that we learn to live with, because God is good. And then you dance in songs. Got it. You learn to enjoy life. Okay.

So... Go ahead. Treatment. Is there a difference between PTSD and depression? Major depression. Major depression.

Yeah, definitely. There's a difference. Depression is just what we were talking about earlier, mostly characterized by the depressed mood, the loss of pleasure in things, the worthlessness, guilt, thoughts of suicide or death. And there's a lot of physical manifestations of depression, too. People lose energy.

They have difficulty concentrating. And then you can either gain or lose weight, depending on how you deal with your depression. Right, but isn't that almost the same as PTSD? You can have all those symptoms with PTSD, but I think PTSD is more characterized by hyperreaction and being tense and stuff like that. Or a depressed person has no energy. They can get angry, but they normally don't have the energy for that.

Yeah. I mean, if you're asking me to highlight the difference between PTSD and depression, I think that they're pretty different. With PTSD, you're getting the intrusive symptoms. That's not characteristic of depression. Intrusive symptoms of flashbacks, of dissociation, the nightmares. That's not something you see in depression. An ability to sleep. The avoidance of, yeah, it all interferes with the ability to sleep. And then this whole avoidance phenomenon.

In depression, aside from being socially withdrawn and just the lack of motivation to talk to people, PTSD, you're avoiding having this very traumatic feeling come up. And you can feel it. It's both mental and physical sensation. It's just an all-encompassing stress response.

That's not something you see in depression. And there doesn't even need to be a trigger. There doesn't even need to be a trigger. They can just blow up out of nowhere.

Yeah. You have this heightened startle response. You're just a very, very, very small fuse. And you can be very irritable or angry very quickly. And that's because your neurobiology has adapted to be in this state. Maladapted.

It's not a good adaptation. It's just what happens. And so diffusing the bomb over time and rewiring the neural circuit is one way to heal from this. So if you ask me the difference between PTSD and depression, they're two very different things. There's no confusion between them.

Right. When it comes to PTSD, because you overreact, suicidal ideation can be quite dangerous because they tend to act on impulse and really don't think about things. And I happen to know that. First-hand experience.

That God is good. So let's discuss some treatment options. You know, what do you find to be effective when it comes to treating PTSD and complex PTSD?

Yeah. You know, there's so many ways to really kind of look at this. The more traditional approach has been with more traditional antidepressants and therapy. And there's definitely a role for both of those. There's kind of been an evolving literature on PTSD and a framework of looking at it. You know, the mind and the body are not separate there. You know, and anyone with PTSD will know that because, you know, if you're in an environment and you have a trigger, you feel it everywhere. You know, you get the very visceral body response to stress. So, you know, using the body as a way to heal is another very powerful way to kind of rewire the brain to not react that way to triggers.

So some of those tools include breath work. You know, yoga and meditation can be helpful. You know, it might seem, you know, like not enough for some people. And it might not be enough for some people.

But, you know, I don't want to just throw those away. There's things like EMDR, eye movement desensitization. So, you know, there's it's very interesting how, you know, our minds are able to heal by using the body and engaging the body.

But when it comes to pharmacology, there's a, you know, one area that I can kind of highlight that we use at my clinic. And it's been it's been very effective. And and that's the role of psychedelics and mental health. Especially when it comes to medication resistant depression, which comes with PTSD. Please continue. Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. And psychedelics have this unique place in mental health. There's been a huge boom of literature in the 1950s. Unfortunately, that promising research got stopped in the late 1970s due to a lot of social and political reasons. When you say psychedelics, mushrooms? Not just mushrooms, but, you know, mushrooms are psilocybin is the active hallucinogen in magic mushroom. So a lot of people might be popular news media coming up about psilocybin at major academic institutions. Psilocybin has been very well studied at Johns Hopkins. And people have used it effectively to deal with, you know, kind of like the existential crisis at the end of life in cancer patients.

It's it really helped us get a new perspective on life. You know, psilocybin is one, you know, LSD or acid is another one. You know, ketamine is a nontraditional psychedelic, but a very potent psychedelic. It is the it's the only legal and and widely available psychedelic in the United States. So that's what I want to discuss, because we're coming up on a short on a hard break. When we come back, let's discuss treatment options for those who are medication resistant. And if you have tried mushrooms, give us a call. 1-866-3434. We will be right back with Amy Cabo and The Cure.

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I know it can be hard to understand. But if only we allow him, God will take us by the hand. Even if we don't believe, something's gotta give. We're talking to Dr. Ghazi Hassan about PTSD. And treatment of PTSD. Dr. Ghazi, at what point is ketamine the better option in the treatment options for PTSD? As we don't have mushrooms and LSD?

Yeah, that's a great question. It really just depends on your views of traditional medicine and kind of the more traditional route. What's interesting about ketamine is its rapid acting effect. It's true of the response that people get with depression. People start to feel the anti-depressant effects within just a few hours.

It's really amazing how effective it has been for depression. Some of the same mechanisms that help battle depression seem to be useful in treating trauma as well. With PTSD, one of the things that we were talking about earlier is that chronic stress leads to a breakdown of the synapse. You start losing synapses over time.

It's just one of the things that we see in the brain. One of the fortunate things with ketamine is that it very directly works on the receptors and the growth factors that rebuild synapses. In a very direct way, ketamine restores healthy brain function.

We see it not just on the biochemical level, but we see it. There's been animal studies that show that when you give ketamine to animals before some type of stress, there's actually a protective effect against stress. Those animals happen to be more resilient. There's another thing that's wonderful is that after the stress itself, ketamine administration helps with something called fear extinction. Fear extinction, we learn fear. Fear is an adaptive response. We should fear certain things like heights and dangerous situations and lions. We shouldn't fear going outside and getting into the car or going to the supermarket.

Those are the things we should not fear. Ketamine administered, it helps the neuroplasticity of the brain, the ability of the brain to adapt. With this medicine, people are able to extinguish fears that are impairing their life.

That's one of the core concepts with PTSD is that all these intrusive thoughts, this heightened irritability and anger and negative thoughts, it's impeding your life. Ketamine is a very direct treatment to help rewire the brain. That's the medicinal side.

That's what we know on the biochemical level. Beyond that, ketamine in the context of psychedelics allows for people to have very spiritual experiences. Whatever your faith may be, you can make a lot more meaning. There's a sense of connectedness with the universe and with the higher power.

It can be a very beautiful experience. It's a much shorter acting psychedelic in a medically supervised scenario. Let me just say that we don't promote people using ketamine in their homes or whatever it is. That needs to be used only in medical settings under the supervision of a medical professional. It might be surprising for people to learn that ketamine is a legal medicine. Most people may associate it with other things. People think of it as a horse tranquilizer or a club drug.

It's not those things. It's that ketamine, since early 2000s, there's been dozens of clinical trials, 4000 plus patients across a variety of conditions that have attested to the safety and effectiveness of its use in mental health. We've also developed an oral program for people. A lot of people think you have to get IV ketamine. That's not true. Oral ketamine is extremely effective.

It's available. People can do this at home with the right education and the right support. It's proven to be a very powerful tool in mental health. Well, I cannot attest for both because I've done mushrooms and I've done ketamine.

Wow, I haven't. What do you do first, mushrooms or ketamine? I know first-hand experience.

Mushrooms, you're way out of it. But that was before, right? If you're in good company, it can be a very fun trip. Of course, I was much younger. I was younger.

All the trees became rainbows, but the trees had rainbow colors. They were all different kind of colors and it was fun. I was with good people, but I don't recommend it. But I do recommend ketamine because it is a very easygoing thing. I mean, you just have to learn to let go and what I do is I close my eyes until the medication takes effect and you just go into a different realm where you realize that whatever was bothering you, whatever was upsetting you, it's not that really big of a big deal. You get the idea of a bigger picture. You feel more connected. You feel more yourself. You get a great big understanding that you cannot remember afterwards how much fun. But you do come out being the best you, feeling like you're blessed and you kind of like that feeling. So after a while, you want to transfer that after being exposed to it. You want to transfer that to real life and you find ways of having similar feelings in real life.

Because, of course, real life is always better than an alternative universe. But that gives you a head start, a kick start, especially when you know nothing but misery. Learning to feel okay and to feel good again really helps. See, that's a first-hand experience of a ketamine-used patient. No, a patient-used ketamine. There you are.

Okay, so... But another thing that's very important, though, I wanted to ask you, Dr. Kasi, what's been your experience with spirituality? Does it help with PTSD?

Yeah, absolutely. And I'm so happy that you... And first of all, that was a very beautiful description of what's possible with ketamine. You know, people have a variety of experiences with ketamine. And I would say that the people who tend to do the best are the people who tap into that spiritual side of them. You know, it connects you with your sense of purpose. It connects you with this sense of universal love and just your humanity. And the bridge is tapping into those parts of your brain, taking them with you outside of the experience, and developing more lasting and durable behaviors, attitudes.

And some people, they come right out of the experience and they kind of radiate that. And for some people, making meaning from the ketamine experiences is greatly helped with the addition of therapy. Therapy is that bridge to take your story, using ketamine as a tool for insight, and to really be able to rewrite that in a much more positive way.

Nice. And I just wanted to mention another thing. There is a bunch of studies for PTSD right now that have exploring new medications. So people definitely can look into that options, like go to clinicaltrials.gov and search for PTSD.

And maybe they'll find a research center next to them that have new medication that is being tried for PTSD. And by the way, we have only a few minutes left to get off. We're done with the show, guys. This is the end.

I'd love to be here forever, but I can't. Thank you, Dr. Kasi Hassan, for being on The Cure, helping us show to our listeners that PTSD is manageable. More information on Dr. Kasi Hassan can be found on myketaminehome.com. Again, thank you, Dr. Hassan. Amy, it was such a pleasure. Thank you, Amy. Thank you, Boris.

I really enjoyed it. Thank you. So let's finish with the prayer. We'd like to do that prayer for restful sleep. For patients with PTSD.

Because they find it hard to sleep. Righteous Father, we pray that you would grant us rest. We ask that you ease our anxiety due to PTSD and end our painful thoughts. May your peace descend from on high and allow us an opportunity for true restfulness.

Please be merciful and allowing the blessing of sleep. We pray that it would bring us relief and encouragement about the future of our life. Lord, let your glory be known by granting your healing touch on us.

Amen. Actually, another prayer. A prayer for courage. Eternal One, we ask that you grant us the courage to deal with the difficulties of PTSD. Please grant us a sense of calm and confidence and peace, of fear and doubt. Let our loving embrace apply with the much needed fortitude in the face of these trials. May your endless love and holy example by a means of our strength and peace.

Please be gracious and help us. Let your reputation be one of a generous father who delivers gifts to those who call on him in faith. Amen. Thank you to Jasper Robby Dilmore. This is Amy Cabo. You have been listening to The Cure. For more information or to get Amy's book, Love is the Answer, God is the Cure, or to listen to the podcasts of previous shows, visit GodIsTheCure.com.