D.C. Draino and the Deadly Russian Space Weapon

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Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. If you just watch the mainstream networks, you are supposed to get very afraid. You're supposed to be very scared that Russia might attack you, that the Death Star is being built, that you might be obliterated from space for Russian space missiles. The pusher of this was a guy by the name of Mike Turner, who is a neo-con. He's never met a war he doesn't want to cheer for. He just said, I got briefed on something and it's of imminent national security risk.

Oh, really? What is it, Mike Turner? Well, to help us unpack this is Rogan O'Hanley, otherwise known as DC Drano, one of the most important voices on the right. Rogan, welcome to the program. Rogan, you did a great job yesterday really debunking this and going through who is Mike Turner?

What does he want? Walk us through it, Rogan. Yeah, so I saw the breaking news on Twitter that Mike Turner had an urgent request of the Biden administration to declassify information that had to do with national security. They just learned about it. He's in the Gang of Eight, a very elite group of intelligence hearing representatives in Congress.

And so my initial instinct was, wait, Mike Turner is a rhino. If this has to do with the border, then I'm listening because that would make sense, terrorism coming across the border. But then we learned it had to do with Russia.

I'm like, OK, this is they just passed the Senate bill, 60 billion dollars. And two days later, we get Mike Turner crying wolf about Russia space weapons. And then we also find out he was just in Ukraine last week meeting with Zelensky. So he's primed to get ready and send over that 60 billion dollars. But I will say to Speaker Johnson's credit, he came out and said there is no reason for alarm and there will probably be no funding sent to Ukraine as he's continued that trend for the last few months. So what was the threat he was saying? And is there any truth to this? Right.

So the threat, as we know it, exists right now is that Russia may have developed or may be activating their capability to use nuclear weapons in space, launched potentially from satellites or other space vehicles. And what was kind of interesting is that almost immediately after Mike Turner raised the alarm, three other members of the House Intel Committee reported anonymously to the media that, listen, is there a concern long term? Yes. Is it a quote today concern?

No. And a lot of people to their credit. You know, I think before Twitter, before Instagram, Facebook, we probably would have fell hook, line and sinker for this type of fear mongering. Hey, they got weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. We got to go in there.

You know, it's that type of vibe. But to a lot of people's credit, I'd say over 90 percent of the big voices on social media called this out for what it is. And it's it's frankly, it's an abuse of power by Mike Turner. Yeah. And so that's a super smart point.

Rogan, let's dive into that. And I think Covid really was the radicalizing moment for so many people to question and to not take the narrative. And it has started this multi-year journey that many of us have been on and somewhere on beforehand. You certainly were.

And I was. But Covid was an accelerant for me. But for just regular everyday people that to not believe exactly what you're told, to look a level deeper, to also question the motives of who is communicating it. Talk more about that, because we're seeing a conservative base that is harder and harder to take advantage of.

Yeah. And we obviously have to take seriously any legitimate national security concerns to to the homeland. But what Covid did, you brought up a very good point. Covid showed that our government on both sides, frankly, will push fear to to to will hyperbolize fear to push an agenda. And the agenda often has to do with tens of billions of dollars being funneled to politically connected insiders. During Covid, it was big pharma. During Ukraine, it is now the military industrial complex. Someone had a great tweet.

I think it was David Sachs. Putin is the new Covid. Right. So they're trying to fear monger about Putin so that we can send money over to a war that has been largely in a stalemate for the last year and has done nothing except obliterate tens, if not hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainians for what?

You know, so so it clearly is a money laundering operation. And this was the next phase. So we have a diverse audience generationally here, Rogan. We have people in their teens, also people in their 60s, 70s and 80s that I want to make sure they understand. And I want because you've been a pioneer in this regard. Can you talk about this new decentralized ecosystem that exists of, you know, you and I text maybe, you know, a couple of times a month, maybe we're not actually organizing our messaging. However, it's amazing how symmetrical our messaging becomes. And can you talk it's a new phenomenon. It is a real check and balance on CBS, ABC, NBC and The New York Times. It's profound and it's it's it's only increasing in its potency. Can you help explain that?

Oh, yeah. I mean, as we've seen with CNN, MSNBC, Forbes, Sports Illustrated, they're cutting their journalist departments by 30, 40, 50, sometimes 100 percent. BuzzFeed News doesn't even exist anymore. Meanwhile, independent media people like you and me and Candace Owens and Brandon Tatum and, you know, those people that post their thoughts, commentary and news on social media have been exploding in growth. I mean, your growth alone has been just monumental. You've got probably over 10 million followers combined across.

I mean, that's significant. When you think of, you know, the most popular nightly primetime news show when it was Tucker, it was an audience of roughly three million. So if you have these independent voices that are able to reach at any given moment, 5, 10, 20 million people, depending on how viral their information is, that's a very powerful weapon. And that's why the censorship apparatus is so pervasive. But I think you're picking up on a new phenomenon, which is that we now have free speech on X, which was formerly known as Twitter. And so in the marketplace of ideas, which is how a functioning constitutional republic is supposed to work, the best ideas rise to the surface. And a lot of people, you know, we don't have big fancy budgets pushing our thoughts out there.

These are our raw, organic assessments. And I think the reason why a lot of people follow us and support us is because we have no agenda. It's just to put the truth out there. And we believe in fighting for this country and saving this country from the deep state. And that's why they're so scared of this. That's why they're trying to censor us.

The pen is mightier than the sword. Yeah, I want to keep talking about this, Rogan. I think I first met you at an NRA convention, if I'm not mistaken, 2018, summer of 18, something like that in Dallas six years ago. And your platform was a fraction of what it is now. But you were really one of the pioneers specifically on Instagram. You saw the power of Instagram.

And I'm just kind of drawing from memory here to be able to get different narratives and different ideas into the zeitgeist, the spirit of the times. And I just want everyone to understand this is a huge point of optimism is that you're not it is going to possibly take years, maybe five or 10 years for it truly to crescendo and to manifest politically. But the left online is failing versus the right, despite the left having almost no issues with social media banning almost they get promoted, they get astroturfed, they have tons of money behind them. But if you look across the board at the most successful tweets, the most successful Instagram posts, the most successful Instagram accounts, person for person, mono a mono, absent Hollywood celebrities, which is a separate issue, we obliterate the left wing influencer community. They're astroturfed.

They are synthetic. Their arguments don't resonate. They're rooted in just complaining.

And they're shallow, where the right hat is thoughtful, is winsome, is funny, is interesting. This is a very important topic. I want to keep talking about Rogan. And it's not again, it's not going to be felt immediately, but it is it is a canary in the coal mine. It is, hey, buy the stock and hold because it is it is a it is a leading indicator that we eventually can and will win majority opinion in this country.

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Whoever this new guy is, is excellent with Nathan Wade. He is getting down to the bottom of it. It is terrific. Said, Oh, what'd you do with the cash? Oh, I didn't deposit it. I just keep it around. What do you like Bob Menendez?

You got gold bars everywhere. All right. Rogan O'Hanley continues with us. Rogan, it's harder and harder for the bad guys to lie.

And you know, I just want to make sure you, we emphasize this. We have no idea how November is going to end up. I certainly hope Donald Trump is successful, but it's a mystery. Things are looking good, but who knows how significant is it if we, if X and Twitter remains an open platform versus the 2020 debacle? Well, I'm going to add some optimism to your optimism.

Okay. Cause this is going to be the first national presidential election where we've had free speech. If you remember, you on took over X after the midterm elections and are right before it, but he didn't change anything really in terms of free speech guidelines, he kind of gave the Democrats that one.

This is going to be the first true test. And as we saw in 2020, just days before the presidential election, social media completely suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop story. And the data after the election showed that somewhere between 10 to 18% of people would have changed their votes if they knew how corrupt the Biden crime family is. So that alone is huge.

And we'll see if he actually sticks to it, but here's the optimism on top of your optimism. The Supreme court right now is sitting on at least four first amendment cases. That will be the most significant first amendment decisions in 50 years.

Right? So we've got the Florida versus net choice in Texas versus net choice laws where they said you cannot as social media companies discriminate against conservatives basically. And those are reached the Supreme court. We've got Missouri V Biden, which is now Murphy V Biden, where the Biden regime was messaging social media and telling them to take down certain vaccine accounts and information. We've got NRA versus Vullo, which is where the New York state regulatory agency reached out to insurance companies and said, do not ensure NRA.

And then they did it because they wanted to suffocate their business in the NRA suit. And then we also have my case O'Hanley V Weber, which is being held by the Supreme court has not been granted cert, but I was banned off Twitter for two years. And then we found emails from the California government targeting me being sent to Twitter saying Rogan O'Hanley DC Drado is spreading election misinformation. I was criticizing the 2020 election and I was banned. We caught him red handed.

It's the government that's a first amendment issue. So those at least four or five cases are going to be ruled on by June or July of this year. And I have a feeling at least 60 to 70% of those decisions are going to fall in our favor and it's going to stop the censorship apparatus in its tracks. Rogan, I want you to just mention, cause you've, you've been really vocal on this speaker Johnson. He has a lot of opportunities ahead of him.

I complimented him yesterday on social media. How should we think about how speaker Johnson is doing in the opportunity ahead of him? I would give, uh, I would give him a C minus thus far, whereas McCarthy I'd give an F. Okay.

So it's an improvement, but there's still a lot of room for improvement. Uh, to his credit, he has stopped any more tens of billions of dollars being sent to Ukraine, which is purely money laundering. Uh, but he has failed to close the border. He has not passed single issue spending bills.

He's kicked the can with these short term CRs. Um, but he has held Mayorkas accountable, right? We just got an impeachment, the first cabinet level impeachment vote since 1876. Uh, we held, uh, Rashida Tlaib accountable with the censor vote. Um, and you know, there are some other things in the pipeline, so, uh, room for improvement.

He was, he was dumped into what is probably an impossible situation and he is fighting his way out. But, um, you know, I'm cautiously optimistic. He still holds the line on the Ukraine spending, but we need to get DC spending under control. It is the most important thing. And second to that, I would say is the border. And he has to start flexing his power.

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They want to give them a whole nother decade that that is completely and totally outrageous. So Rogan, great work. DC Drano. Does that work that your, uh, call sign everywhere? Yep. Yep.

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County executive. Did I say that right, Vernon? You did, Charlie.

You did. Vernon, I know you're fired up about this. We have some of the tape to play here.

There's so many layers to this, but just riff a little bit. What is going on today in Fulton County? A circus is really a mess.

It's a web, Charlie. I think you, me, and everybody else, the American people who've been looking at this here, and forgive me, by the way, because my voice is, of course, I've been going different weather zones, but this is plain and simple. Was there a conflict of interest involved in the DA? Her boyfriend, who's one of the special prosecutors in this Trump, a whole RICO case, and it has come out by one of the indicted person's lawyer, that there was a conflict of interest, that this DA is benefiting with her boyfriend by paying her boyfriend taxpayer's dollars, and it's been spent on her and Ladd's trips. And today is a hearing where the boyfriend, and it was also the special prosecutor, is on the stand right now, as you and I speak, and they are trying to determine when did he have, or he started his relationship with his young lady, the DA. He's staying after they came on a special prosecutor, but the other defendant's lawyer, Ms. Merchant, is saying, no, it happened before then. So he lied, and they lied in their motion to squash the subpoena, to testify.

I want to play a piece of tape here. I believe Nathan Wade is lying. I don't think he was paid cash by Fannie Willis. It's a great cop out. And to the cross examiner's credit, he's asking the right questions.

Let's play caught 115. Ms. Willis paid you in cash, all the money for the entire trip. It was a gift for you for your birthday, correct? Yes, sir. And I'm sure you probably have the deposit slips where you took the cash and deposited the cash into your account, don't you?

I did not deposit the cash in my account. You don't have a single solitary deposit slip to corroborate or support any of your allegations that you were paid by Mrs. Willis in cash, do you? No, sir. Not a single solitary one.

Not a one. He's getting a little smug there, Vernon. He's getting a little bit, you know, let's just say prideful, there I say. Well, I think he's confident. I think he's selling truth in his answer in terms of he did not deposit that money in the account. Well, I don't believe he ever received $3,500 cash from the start.

So that's why I think he sounds so confident. I think if he did receive $3,500, you and I both know that the DA is not walking around with just $3,500 cash in her, then she would have gotten it out of her account. So let's look at her bank account and let's look at the date and time she made that cash withdrawal. And then I think that can tell you whether or not he's selling truth or she's selling truth. That's why it's so important that she take the stand as well. And we hear from her.

I totally agree. And by the way, they could subpoena bank records too, right? I mean, this is if you were a liar and if you knew that you were caught, what excuse would you give? You would say that it was done via cash.

So there is no track record, but there is a track record. At some point, the cash has to come from somewhere. And by the way, there's another suspicious thing that Nathan Wade said, and I don't want to play too much humor into this, but he said, oh, I have all sorts of different sorts of cash deposits because I have different jobs. Really, I didn't know lawyers get paid in cash, Vernon.

That's interesting. There's very few industries that get paid in cash and they're not always the most, let's say, mainstream. Well, I think what you've seen happen over the years, not only that and even purchasing homes, you can only, like at a closing, you can only give a certain dollar amount in cash.

You can't go over a certain threshold because it was money laundering or it was perceived as money laundering. So, but it should be easy to determine that we know that the DA does not get paid in cash. She gets paid by the state. She had no other job. She can't have any other job.

Yes. And you can be able to see where the DA withdrew out of her account $3,500 unless she says, oh, well, her cousin just gave me $3,500 cash, but let's see where they got their cash from. So I think that's what we need to hold, Charlie. Not until this testimony do we know how she paid. We thought it was just a regular reimbursement when he said it was reimbursed.

This is the first time we heard the term cash. And let me tell you, this is another opening in this case. It's an opening and the lies eventually will catch up to them, right? So they're trying to lie and to cover their tracks.

And we should keep it. I mean, at my gut instinct level, I know that there was no cash paid. I mean, come on. They're using this as a way to try to cover up.

They're trying to be cute. All right. Let's play cut 117, please. Legal is thick, centric and yet so important and fascinating. Right.

Don't let the legalese fool you. This is epic. This is monumental. If things are going in the direction, we think Fannie Willis lied to the court. It's game over for her.

She will be disqualified if they had a relationship prior to when they represented to the court. It's a huge deal. I can't overstate it. That's MSNBC, Vernon. That's MSNBC.

I want to emphasize before even the bank records. What they're talking about is a technical lie, perjury that the whole ballgame is over, according to MSNBC. They claim that their relationship started in 2022, but in reality, it predated back to 2019.

Vernon Jones. Charlie, when I first heard them filing a motion, meaning the the Fannie Willis with the testimony of Wade, that they gave a specific date when their relationship started. I knew right then that was going to be a problem because more than likely, a merchant, Ashley Merchant, the defendant's attorney, already knew that that relationship had started before then and had that witness on hand because she did more of a drip, drip, drip as opposed to let all of her evidence out. And so that was the counter. When they said that that particular date, they marked the date when that relationship started. I knew that was a problem.

Today, you can see that's a problem. And you're right. If they determine that they lied there and furthermore, weren't this determination that they lied about the cash? Officers of the court cannot lie to the court. She's a district attorney. He's taking an oath of under the district attorney's office. So he's acting as an officer of the court. You cannot lie to the courts, especially if you're a district attorney or special prosecutor. And so what does that do?

They go to the heart of them and their judgment and whether or not they lie about a lot of other things. So guess what? That's grounds for the judge to disqualify her and they may be subject to lose their bar license.

Yeah. And by the way, does that mean that the case itself falls apart? I mean, at the very least, it would be a delay and a victory for Donald Trump. Here's what I think would have happened in that case. Just like, remember, there's a precedent already set on her being disqualified in this whole RICO case. You remember the lieutenant governor, she wanted to subpoena him. She wanted to indict him. He was able to file a motion to judge Thompson because she held a fundraiser for his opponent not long before then. So that was tossed because she would disqualify the conflict of interest.

That pattern is there. So that happens now. And matter of fact, not only was she qualified, her entire office was qualified. And right now, a judicial, I should say a prosecutor counsel is looking on appointing someone else to go further that case.

They can't find anybody because nobody wants to touch it. Now, in this particular case, if she disqualified, it could be her, her entire office. It's going to go back to that same prosecutorial counsel. And they got to try to find what DA would take this case.

And I can tell you, you're not going to find a DA who want to put their hands on this, and this ain't going to die of a slow death. So Vernon, let's talk to some of the politics in Georgia. It's mission critical that Donald Trump wins the state of Georgia. How does this impact the politics going into November? Initially, it seemed as if this was going to be a distraction or potentially an impediment or a negative for Donald Trump. This is turning, I think, into a positive. It looks as if a local DA where there's lots of crime and lots of gang activity that really needs to be focused on and, you know, a lot of a lot of stuff that needs to really be sorted out.

How they're distracting with this ridiculous case. How does this play out politically in your estimation? Well, I think this just adds to the case that President Trump is going to take Georgia. Now, because of Biden's actions, or maybe I should say inactions, that's going to help the president win Georgia. He's already leading in Georgia.

This is going to be a big stinger because they thought that this would put Trump in jail, think it's going to put Trump in jail, get him off the ballot, this or that. And then there's another factor here. The black male vote is trending here in Georgia and is trending towards Trump. And so with just a 5% move of the black vote here, Trump is going to win Georgia by a greater margin. Yeah. So let's talk more about that.

What is behind that? And even if that moves 2 or 3%, it changes the whole ballgame. And, you know, you've been doing some great work, Vernon, in Georgia to really hit the grassroots. Just so everyone understands, for all new voter registrations, there is 1.5 to 1 ratio of new Republican to Democrats like clockwork right now in Georgia. So it's actually even becoming redder than it was in 2020. And so the table is really set for Donald Trump to win back the state of Georgia. What do you attribute that change in the black community to?

Very simple, Charlie, just like in the white community. Is your life better off now under Joe Biden versus when you were under President Trump's administration? When you look at what interest rates are now, 7%, going back to President Trump's interest rates under his term, it was around 3%, 3.5. When you look at a cost of a gallon of gas or a gallon of milk or a dozen of eggs, it's much more now than it was back then.

Inflation has driven up the cost of goods and services, and it was better under Trump administration. And so when you look at that and you really try to look at Joe Biden having an open border, bringing illegals in here, and they're taking away the resource and the actual cash in some minds and giving it to a group of people who never lived in this country. You have veterans living under bridges.

We have other communities that can use those dollars to revitalize their communities. America's not first, America's last. The terrorists are first. We've got a lot of terrorists coming in here. The gangs are coming in here.

They're treated first over Americans. And so those are the things that's contributed to it. And Charlie, people can see Joe Biden, then Joe Biden, his mental capacity. He's too old.

And I see it as senior abuse, like me and others. Joe Biden is now running this country. The threat from around the world, the wars that we're engaged in now, all the money going to these foreign countries and could be coming here. That's what people are making decisions about, Charlie.

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Vernon, elaborate. Yeah, I should have expanded on that. I should have said all those Black lives and all those White lives that was involved and that money being funneled in that manner, they all should have been indicted because of the false pretense. You know, they got out there and they made this big issue about Black Lives Matter. Well, all lives matter, obviously, but when you see where that money was funneled, it went back even to the founder and all of a sudden since Black lives matter, but she's living in a million dollar home in a White community.

I guess maybe just her Black life matter. I saw these corporate companies and I saw governments pave the streets, sports companies, sports I should say, organizations donating money. And where did that money go? That money went to those same individuals who said that Black lives matter, but I think it's a sham of what has happened.

I was thinking that way back then, Charley, and others are always talking about it, when in the heart of it was it was more destructive in one hand to the nuclear, the Black family. And at the same time, when you look at a lot of organizations that did get the money, it went to the LBGTQ organizations and what schools were built as a result of all that money collected. What classes were held?

How many kids went to college on scholarships? It should be a full accounting and yet they should be indicted, all of them should be indicted. And by the way, Vernon, imagine if BLM went in and started building charter schools and started to build community centers or, you know, anti-violence task forces.

Instead, it just was this massive grift. We were told that all this money was going to be spent for Black empowerment. Is that, and maybe I'm by no means an expert, is that politically something that could be talked about? I can't imagine, you know, if you live in, let's just say, a lower income Black neighborhood and you see all this money that was supposed to go to impact your community, is there any built-up resentment around that? Well, clearly, I think there's been built-up resentment among many people.

When you look at here's a group that gets out there and get all this money, but Charley, you know what? I can't solely blame them and lay all the blame at their feet. What did these sports organizations, baseball, basketball, what about these private organizations, these banking institutions, all these other groups who donated all this money to them and just gave them money, didn't hold them accountable, so they wouldn't have had money to spend. I know I didn't give it to them. You didn't give it to the average Black person who didn't give them this money. It came from major corporations, the woke corporations, and so really, they should be held responsible too because they were ones who fed the fire, the fuel to them. And remember, right in your hometown, Major League Baseball, because of the voting bill that was very vanilla, they canceled the All-Star Game in downtown Atlanta, which would have been an economic stimulus for Black-owned businesses and for Black entrepreneurs.

They moved it and went to Lilywhite, Denver, all because they didn't like a voting bill. Remember that. Major League Baseball did that. It is one of the great injustices of professional sports in recent memory.

Final thoughts, Vernon. Yeah, you're right about that, Charlie. I mean, it was kind of ironic.

Matter of fact, Senate Bill 202 did not do anything to voter suppress anybody. Matter of fact, it made even more available what it did if you were trying to, you couldn't cheat. And you're right. Look, Black vendors, white vendors who invested money for the All-Star Games so they could be helping their business, even kids who want to come out and see their famous players, all that was taken from a city or an area that's majority African-American out in Denver, Colorado, with a 9% Black population.

And now that New York election laws are much more restricted than Georgia's election laws, why didn't Major League Baseball move its headquarters? So there's a lot of blame to go around here. We must never forget that. Vernon, keep up the great work. Thank you so much. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.