Charlie Goes to Gomorrah

Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk Show. So I went on this podcast, it is called Whatever. It is a viral podcast where they talk about dating and relationships and you might have seen clips of it before.

Some of the panel participants are actively involved in producing pornography and some very graphic things. So I just want to give you a warning before you listen to this podcast. I think you'll find it interesting. I asked some direct questions, I tried to listen and tried to share the truth. So enjoy this conversation. There's a fair amount of spicy topics here so please if you're a minor or if you just don't want to have your day ruined by more graphic conversation, just don't listen to this and this is your warning.

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Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. Well, I think you're being the only married person here. I think that's perhaps a good jumping off point. I think a lot of people, both men and women, they're kind of frustrated with the current dating landscape. Do you have any thoughts on this?

What's your diagnosis into any solutions? And we'll go, we'll open it up. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I think people need to date with the intent to marry.

Yeah. I'm a big critic of hookup culture in its current form. I believe sex should be sacred and is sacred and it's, it's really way thrown away way too generously in this society and culture. And I can tell you I'm super blessed. I have the best wife in the world. We have an amazing life. Building a family is the coolest thing ever. And I, my prayer for all of you is that you one day can do that.

That's so cute. It's, it's honestly the most joyful thing. And I, you know, I've had some pretty amazing experiences.

I've been very, very blessed, very lucky you could say, but very blessed is the word I would use. And the greatest joy I've ever had is coming home to my little daughter, running up to my leg. There's nothing that even comes close to it.

Not flying on Air Force One, not meeting with presidents. That's all that pales in comparison to your little girl coming up and squeezing your leg. Okay. Okay.

Got it. Does anybody else have any thoughts on that with, you know? Yeah. So I just wanted to circle back because you said something that caught my attention and I disagree with it. You said something like, I hope all of you can experience that. And I mean, I don't disagree with that. I hope we can all experience joy in life like that.

That's amazing. But I just feel like, I don't know why you said it that way. Like, maybe we're not going to experience that because we don't have the same values as you. Is that what he said? I don't, I don't think that's, that's not the impression I got, but I'll, if Charlie wants to answer.

Well, if I said it that way, I didn't mean it that way. But Molly, do you think that, is that, is that a goal that you would want in your life to be a mother? 100%. Yeah. Okay. Do you think that in your self-described current line of work that that is more or less likely?

What do you mean by likely? Like... I mean, maybe you can tell me more about your line of work. What would you like to know? Do you think that it's going to create a good, happy family in the future?

Right now I'm working on it. Yeah. Me and my boyfriend are doing really well in our relationship. And honestly, I think contrary to what most people would believe, I think being in porn has strengthened us. What, why is that? I've never heard that.

Can you tell me why? So basically like, being in porn and having sort of like this open type of relationship where you can have sex with other people, obviously there are certain boundaries in the relationship, but it really makes you think about, you know, what's important, why you love this person. And, you know, you start to really hold things true that are deeper than just sex. And I think that on top of that, you can share sex with other people together. And that's really bonding.

That's really fun. Are you ever worried that... Do you ever get jealous of him if he has sex with other people? Yeah. Oh, you do?

Yeah. So how does that strengthen your relationship? Because we're able to talk about it. And I think every time that I bring up a concern and he's able to soothe it and we're really able to like work on that bond, it just makes it stronger. Have you ever, when you were having sex, do you ever think it's more than physical? That maybe there's emotional and spiritual connections you might be introducing? No. So it's a purely physical experience?

Yeah. See, for me, sex is more than physical. It's actually, that's the least part of sex for me, because I get to share it with my soulmate.

It's my best friend. It's definitely a big energy exchange. Yeah, it's a big energy exchange. And so Molly, I would ask respectfully, wouldn't you want to only share that energy exchange with the person that you love most and want to have children with? I think sex can exchange different types of energies. So you can exchange an intimate type of energy, or you can exchange a really passionate, horny type of energy. You can exchange dull energy during sex, you can exchange manipulative energy during sex.

Sex can be used for a wide variety of things and I think the biggest one is like marital, spiritual connection, but you can't deny that there's other benefits to it as well. If you could never, if you could be with your boyfriend currently and I waved a magic wand and I said you can make a million dollars a year and never do porn again, would you? No. Okay. What? Are you making more than that a year, Molly? Not yet. Oh, well then, I mean, aren't you doing that? That's your profession, so I assume you're doing that to make money, correct? Yeah, 100%. But Charlie just has a magical wand.

He's used the wand. You can make a million dollars a year. You don't have to do the adult content. Well, the thing is I wouldn't have to do it.

That would be great, but I would still want to do it. Personally, I'm an exhibitionist. I love putting my sexual self out there for other people to see, for other people to touch themselves to, have fun with. Can I ask you a question? Since you're about presenting yourself to the world, do you have a good relationship with your father? Okay, here we go. No, I don't talk to him. I'm not surprised.

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Grid one motorsports donated $200. In other words, sex is whatever she needs to make believe it is at the time she needs to rationalize it. It's called hoelogic. Oh, I wouldn't use that language. But Molly, what I would say is you seem like a sweet person. Maybe something to think about as the years go on that maybe sex should just be saved for the person you love most. I would ask you or the panel, what would your definition of love be? Me and the whole panel?

Or just anyone. I mean, that's just the fundamental question with dating, right? Is that a tough question, guys? Kind of, yeah.

It's a very complex answer. You know what? Let's go around the table. Oh, no, it's great. It's great. It's great.

We'll go around the table. Do you want to answer? So your question is, what is love? Yeah, that's a song.

It's a good song. Yeah. Or how would you define love?

How do you define love? Could we all agree that's probably a good goal of dating to find love? Do we all agree on that? Yeah. Yes. So we'll start with you. We'll go around the table if you guys want to give your answers for that.

Go ahead. I feel like love is an emotional connection between two people that value each other and accept each other for who they are. I feel like that's what love is. I feel like real love is when you find kind of, I guess, things you don't like about the person you're with and you still choose to be with them and grow with them either way. I feel like that's real love. I feel like that's more of a romantic type of love. I feel like love is something that's going to transcend just romantic relationships. And I would say it's like an emotional bond that exists between human beings. And I say human beings just to specify that I don't think it exists between people and things because I think that's kind of materialistic.

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Go ahead. Just that I think love is a connection that exists between people, not things to get away from more like a materialist understanding of like people saying like, I love my car. I love this item or whatever. I don't really think that constitutes love. But other than that, I would not be able to really define it.

It's a question that philosophers have been debating since the beginning of time. I don't know that it will be on this podcast. Hold on. Donald Trump donated $200. I'm pleased to announce Charlie Kirk as my VP pick. That's a big announcement.

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The VP pick. Okay. I'm sorry, Erin. Go ahead. No, just that. Okay. What about you? I agree with both of them. So I don't really have anything else to add. Okay. All right. There is different types of love.

Obviously, we don't feel love for our parents the same way we do with a romantic partner or friend. Yeah. But with that being said, I would classify love as a deep connection and emotion that you share with someone and also kind of like really hoping for the best for that person for who they are and their future and just like what you hope you can do together as well. Okay.

I agree with them as well. I think love is accepting someone for all of them, not just the good parts. And I think that it should be like unconditional if you're going to love someone, that it should be the good and the bad. That's a tricky one for me because I have a heart. I'm difficult to kind of deal with the term love and things around.

I'm kind of scared of it. But I feel like the main type of love that I like to focus on is just the self love. As the rest of the girls are saying, there's so many different types of love. You can find it in a partner.

But I feel like, I don't know, I couldn't imagine myself loving someone unconditionally but myself. Sure. I can find ways. Can I ask a question? Absolutely.

Go ahead. Why do you think you're afraid of love? I don't know what it is. I think maybe the commitment. It's scary. Yeah. It's scary, isn't it? Would you say other people are you afraid of love? Do you feel that way? I feel like people are afraid of happiness because happiness isn't long term. You can't stay happy forever, especially with the person. It's not always going to be perfect. So I feel like a lot of people are scared of love because I feel like, well, let's say you're in a relationship with somebody, right? And I guess the best thing you can hope for is to end up dying together. No matter what, it's never forever lasting.

So I don't know. I think that's how it is. And it's also scary because if you give more to someone and they don't give it back, that hurts a lot. I think honestly, that's the most beautiful part about love because true love doesn't really care whether you're loved back. It hurts if you're not loved back, but you're still going to love that person or yourself or whatever. But I think that love in general is just a deep understanding and acceptance of a human being. Our worldviews are the same.

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English has screwed this up. So in Greek, the first word would be phileo, which is the brotherly love, the city of brotherly love, Philadelphia, right? So we all know that what that's like to love a sibling, right? But that's a completely different type of love than storge in Greek, which is to love a child, which is my wish for all of you.

It's a great thing, as I said. Also, there is eros, which some of you may have had before, which is erotic. We get the English word erotic from. But then there's this He looked at me. Did you look at her? I did kind of glance right in her direction, right as you said that.

So and then the last is agape, which I'm a Christian. We believe that's the highest form of love, which you guys mentioned sort of, which is you would give your life for that person. And that's a very hard thing, right?

I would give my life for my wife in a second and for my child. And I guess my question is, and anyone can chime in, through the current hookup culture OnlyFans, is it more or less likely to get towards that ideal self-sacrificing type of love? I was just gonna say personally, I think that a lot of people today are so wrapped up and stuck because they don't know how to love themselves. And that causes, you know, a lot of stuff to happen and it can cloud your mind from really being able to pursue and look for a connection with another person. And also with like social media and like dating apps and stuff now, like people are so used to like having options and just like literally just having like whoever they really want to. So it's like a lot harder for people to be like, I guess, more serious because once... Go ahead, keep going, keep going.

Because like, I don't know, like for a lot of people that are into like hookup culture and stuff, like, I don't know, I just feel like there's a lot of options and people don't take it serious because there's so many people to choose from. And like, if they don't like one thing about you, they're like, oh, okay, I'll just find someone else then. Like, I don't know, it's kind of... Yeah, but I think that goes in terms of like anybody, not just OnlyFans people. OnlyFans obviously does get in the way of someone wanting to take you serious. But I've actually noticed OnlyFans has got a lot more guys in my DMs. So when I post a movie pic, everyone is loving me. Well, do they love you or do they lust you?

Well, it's probably more lust, but it's still something to feed my attention ego. If you could find a stable soulmate, would you quit that line of work? If you were totally financially supported, similar to the question to Molly?

I mean, anything to make me stay in bed all day. In terms of a soulmate, I don't know. I would rather myself be my own soulmate. I was raised by an independent mother. I haven't really seen much of a kind of, I guess, a relationship. But I also feel like you don't really need it.

My mom has done everything for herself and for me. And so I don't know, I feel like menopause as well. I'm going to get sick of them and I'll be in a marriage that I will regret.

So sick of who? If I get married. Such a dark view of marriage. It's a beautiful thing, everybody. It's this exciting.

No, I trust me. Part of the problem is the culture is so dark and terrible. I will be perfect. It's very hard. Marriage is very difficult. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. And raising kids is even harder than that.

And I've done some difficult stuff, but it's by far the most fulfilling. Charlie, do you think people should wait until marriage to have sex? Ideally, of course, yes.

But I'm not here to judge people that, I mean, I'm not here to say that you're a bad person or whatever. That's, I have not... Sorry, can I just ask? Yes, sure. Did you wait till marriage? Yeah. Oh, really? It's the greatest decision of my life. Wow.

I would not be able to imagine you waited till marriage and you find out the other side. I had other... I would hate that. Well, there's more important things. I think more important things. You can't leave it up to the marriage day, man. Sex shows are important.

But let's play the other side of it. Imagine going into the bedroom on your marriage night and knowing that you both have each other for the first time. You never had to share that human being. Yeah, true. But then again, I lost my sanity to a virgin as well. Or imagine if they were really experienced and they were an awesome lay and you guys also had a connection.

That would also be really fun. Or if they're a man, they might be thinking about other women for the rest of your relationship. I don't think men stop thinking about other women just because they get married. I really doubt that. I think men will do that no matter what.

Men's minds are rather undisciplined. You are right. That is true. But they don't have other experiences or pair bonds, especially for women with pair bonds are a real thing to compare that to. But look, I will go back to what I said. Sex is a very powerful thing.

We all agreed with that. And I think you have to... A tool, one might even say. It can be used. It could be abused.

It could be... But in its ideal, which I fully acknowledge, it's very, very hard to do. Very hard, very hard, very difficult, but should be a goal that I would like to see more people at least talk about in a non-judgmental way that is worth aspiring to. And it's not impossible. It's not impossible.

It's not popular, but it's not impossible. Okay. Did you have a response, Erin, or I thought someone over here had a...

I don't think so. I think I had something to say. Oh, did you have... Yeah, sorry. Did you have more?

Does... Did any... If you could wipe the... I know this is hypothetical. That's okay. Well, I remember what I was going to say. You were saying that like, oh, if you only have one partner, you're not going to think about other people. But I actually feel like that might make you wonder even more.

Yeah. You'll be seeing all these girls online. You'll be watching porn. You'll be thinking about all these other things. And it's like, all you have is one person.

And I don't know. I feel like that would open up a lot of curiosity. Yeah. That would drive me crazy. I would always be wondering what I was missing and did I miss out on something good because I was holding out for something that maybe it turned out not to be what I thought it was. Yeah.

Looking around, I can't say that I think I'm missing much to be honest. Not around this table. I'm just saying. No, not around this table.

I just say the country. Just in general. Not around this table. I just... What am I missing? Um, you know, I have a... By the way... Is he missing anything? Yeah, what... Erin?

Is he missing? I mean, if you're saying that she's like the best person, then no. No, I... Not every day is amazing. Well, obviously. I think you're missing out on some good threesomes. Yeah, that's all I'm going to say. If that is the compelling argument... A ROM! No, then no.

I don't know why that's not working. Look, everything in life is a choice. I get to have a soulmate that I get to go and adventure with and a beautiful daughter and you get to have orgies. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless.