The Race to Iowa + Mass Rebellion in Ireland

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So you're doing a great job. Raheem, there's a lot going on in the Western world right now. We have Ireland that is bubbling up and we have a lot happening domestic, domestic politically as well. So I want to ask here, just have you walk us through how do you see the Republican race, Republican primary race, Koch brothers behind Nikki Haley? What are we supposed to make of that?

Well, and thank you for having me, Charlie, and thank you for the kind words. The first thing that comes to mind when you look at Koch world, Koch network, choosing to endorse Nikki Haley is obviously the megabucks, right? That's a war chest that any candidate would love to get their hands on, on any side. Historically, you know, the Kochs have poured hundreds of millions into races over the last couple of years alone, probably runs into much more than that over the last 20-odd years. And the second part of it that people need to understand is that so many people that are in the DeSantis camp actually have worked for or with Koch aligned and affiliated organizations over their political histories. So for instance, if you take, you know, Ken Cuccinelli had received, when he was AG, a large amount of money from Koch networks. You have DeSantis spokesman, Carly Atchison, who was defending her former boss, Governor Kevin Stitt, taking money from Koch networks previously, and Christina Puschaw as well, the spokesman for Ron DeSantis, the rapid response spokesman for Ron DeSantis, has also worked closely with Koch networks. So you've got to look at it from that perspective as to why they find it so much of a humiliation, so much of a snub, that that organization, Americas for Prosperity, and probably the broader Koch network as well, is now going to be a very big part of the campaign as well, is now going to be supporting somebody else, somebody else who has been eating Team DeSantis' lunch for a couple of weeks now, who is fundraising just as much as them, who is going up in the polls, not down or flatlining. And, you know, I'm not a huge Nikki Haley fan by any stretch of the imagination, but her campaign is clearly more disciplined. She's clearly impressing donors much more.

And yes, they are, you know, I've never been a fan of them. They are more open borders, more globalist types, more corporate types. But at the same time, like I said at the very beginning, these candidates would kill to get their hands on that kind of money.

So Nikki gets the endorsement and the capital behind it, that the Kochs are increasingly sympathetic to DEI, CRT, open borders, more globalist. The DeSantis campaign, it seems to be kind of falling apart right now. And I'm personally quite upset by how we're continuing this kind of unnecessary primary when we should be consolidating support behind Donald Trump.

How do you? Ron DeSantis still has about 70 to 80 million dollars that we know of in the Super PAC, probably less than that. And it's all coming down to Iowa. Vander Plaats and also Reynolds have endorsed DeSantis. My fear is that Trump will win Iowa, but he might win by 10 or 15 or 20. And the media is going to try to make this to seem like, oh, he narrowly or by a much closer margin than anticipated. Your thoughts, Rahim?

Yeah, I have many. Vander Plaats has been soliciting money from politicians for as long as anybody can remember in exchange for his endorsement. So that's one thing that people need to understand that this is not the big honking snub to Donald Trump. The team DeSantis is trying to portray as strictly speaking, the DeSantis team was willing to cut him a check.

And so they got the endorsement. Kim Reynolds is now the second least popular governor in the country. That story that we had up over the last couple of days as well, when you look at the data. So that's not, you know, Team DeSantis is wondering, oh, well, she's endorsed us and Bob's endorsed us. Why aren't we going up at the polls? Well, if people bothered, if they had actually bothered to try and look at what motivates ordinary people, what's motivating Iowans at the moment, they would know that it isn't somebody else telling them what to do, right? It's them making up their own minds about which candidate best reflects their values and which candidate critically can beat Joe Biden. You know, it's funny talking about the Koch endorsement because over the last several months, that team DeSantis has signaled over and over again, that taking money from globalist donors, Bush connected donors, all of this stuff doesn't mean anything, because Ron will not count out to the donors demand, he's happy to take their money, but he won't do what they say. And now as soon as somebody snubs them, it gives the money to Nikki Haley, they're like, oh, well, she's obviously massively compromised, and so on and so forth. This is the type of campaign they've run, Charlie, they've run a campaign where it's so fundamentally out of step with even the things that they are signal and the things that they are saying, that it doesn't ring true to anybody.

And I listen, at the beginning of this whole thing, I really hoped we'd see a fair fight. But they came out of the blocks, screaming blue murder, screaming all sorts of falsehoods about Donald Trump, and Donald Trump supporters, by the way, me being one of those, who, you know, they've told lie after lie, oh, you take money from the Trump camp, oh, you're in this country illegally, you know, just saying all this nasty stuff. And people watch it. And they go, well, who are these people? Who are these people who have come along very recently, by the way, into conservative world, and are now telling us that the people who have been fighting on the front lines for a decade in the populist nationalist movement are somehow phonies and grifters and what have you. So I look at it through that lens.

Obviously, it's very personal to me, because I've been doing this for so very long. And I look at it through that lens. The other thing that I think you have to think about when it comes to Iowa, and I agree with you, by the way, this is why we did a story earlier this week about the number of caucus commitments that each side has. So the Trump camp is saying they've got over 50,000 caucus commitments, the Sanders camp say they've got about 30,000 caucus commitments. Well, that probably will end up being a closer outcome in Iowa than most people think. And I'm happy to say that because Jeff Rose ability, you know, he did the Ted Cruz stuff out there in 2016. His ability in that one state alone on the caucus stuff alone is actually quite good on everything else. As we've seen, he doesn't know diddly squat about running a campaign. So Iowa, yes, you're right, the media will probably try and come out and say, Oh, he didn't Trump didn't win it as much as he should have won it by. But at the same time, it really doesn't matter.

At that point, Ron is going to have a very hard time justifying even staying in the race. Yeah, and that's it's going to be also incumbent on us setting the narrative here because I'm a little I'm afraid that the margins of the poll show Trump's up 40 in Iowa, I doubt he's going to win by 40 because the caucus system is very tricky. Also, a lot of people enter open minded. And then the way the caucus works, I actually went to a caucus in 2016 is that everyone sits in like a library or whatever, and they sit there and every campaign then gives a chance to give a speech. They have a surrogate that will then be able to give a speech and people then make their decision.

They write it on a little piece of paper and they put it in a bucket. Right. Probably more secure than our elections in other parts of the country, to be perfectly honest with you. And that's it. And then they tally it up and then they zap it back in and you'll have a result within a couple hours. Right. There's no ballot. There's actually no ballots. There's no signature verification. It's very neighborhood.

It's very, very close together. Then wouldn't it be smart for those of us that want to see Trump win to manage expectations going into Iowa? We must remember Trump did not win Iowa in 2016. Yeah, the answer is yes. And also the other thing is, why did Trump not win Iowa in 2016?

Because Jeff Rowe in the Ted Cruz campaign at the time told a brazen lie during that caucus, right, about other candidates dropping out and that you weren't, you know, there was no point in wasting your time dealing with them. So, yes, I completely agree with you. Expectation management is the name of the game going into December into January. With the world quickly descending into chaos, the next medical crisis is just around the corner. Whether it's another pandemic or something closer to home, preparedness is no longer an option.

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Yeah, Charlie, incredibly important story coming out of the testimony yesterday from New York. The claims that have long been made in this case are that Donald Trump somehow defrauded everybody, right? The public, the banks, you know, everybody you can possibly imagine by inflating values of certain things, misreporting certain other things. And, you know, the defense has pretty much rested on the case that like, hey, listen, when it comes to valuations of properties, especially in a very fluctuating market, in fluctuating economic times, with somebody whose name on a building alone can change the value of that building quite drastically, that of course opinions are going to differ on these things.

But here's the crux of the matter. Nobody was defrauded and you know nobody was defrauded he was defrauded because a nobody made a complaint of being defrauded. B, everybody that was supposed to be paid for the loans that were taken out by the Trump organization over, you know, number of decades were repaid in full and were very happy with that business so much so that they came back as repeat business partners with the Trump organization. And then C is that actually, of course, the most famous part of the case that a lot of people know now is that it's it's been the work of Judge Engaron, his staff, Alison Greenfield, and the AG's office that has actually been the ones who have been wrongly valuing a lot of Donald Trump's properties over the years. So, so what we heard yesterday was the Deutsche Bank saying actually, you know, in their own words, one of their own managing partners getting up there and saying, there's no problem with the client and us having a different valuation of a property that happens normally, that happens actually more often than not. He also made it very clear that, you know, while Deutsche Bank throughout those years lowered their estimation of Donald Trump's total wealth, they didn't change his ability to service those loans.

They had had successful business deals with him in the past, so they wanted to do more with him in the future. And they didn't regard anything in those financial statements or any claims over the valuations of any of the properties to be, you know, farcical, even let alone fraudulent. And so this is a critical part of the case, which I personally believe me reading it myself that if I heard that as a judge, I would say, well, okay, hold on a minute now here. There's nobody been harmed. There's no actual claim, you know, legal claim here, you know, case dismissed, everybody go back to living their day to day lives.

But as we know, you know, Judge Engeron and especially his far left staff members were closely linked with people like Dan Goldman, who ran the first impeachment with obviously the tissue James's office themselves. They're not going to end the case there. This is this is a show trial. It is made simply to take up Donald Trump's time to take up Donald Trump's money and to try and land him some negative press. The good news about it all, as you know, Charlie, is I think in the long run, this only serves to help him.

So that's a good transition. We have two minutes left here, Rahim. I'm a little worried that there isn't a game plan or a war room of how we're going to navigate the coming lawfare. We're told that there is a trial coming in January.

Not only is an Iowa caucus season, but we're talking about trials in January. Rahim, how are you analyzing and strategizing how we're going to go through what's going to be the spring of the lawfare? It never should happen. It's anti-American.

It's unconstitutional. But I think we need to prep our base for the looming just hurricane of nonsense. This is I don't know if we've done a good enough job of fortifying our defenses. Rahim, your thoughts? Not at all. I mean, not at all.

Not not. Have we just not done a good enough job? We haven't done a job. The political the political right on both sides of the Atlantic is what we're seeing now going on in Ireland, what we're seeing going on in the United Kingdom is always overwhelmed and never prepared. You know, it comes back to the first topic that we talked about, you know, the money from the extensible right. Let's say, you know, the Koch network counts within that. They at least count as the extensible right here in Washington, D.C., not that that really means anything.

But places like that are happy to fritter millions, tens of millions of dollars away on things like that. Meanwhile, right, the information war, we're always playing catch up on. We're always rebutting other articles and other things that are being said. We're always reacting to the assertions that are made on Morning Joe or something like that. We're not actually developing the cases ourselves.

It's been incredibly difficult to follow these trials alone and get ahead of these stories, even the Deutsche Bank story, which the media has tried to suppress. As you say, we're going to the spring. We're going to need a whole lot more, need more resources, quite frankly. I mean, that's why, you know, the National Pulse, we have a completely 100 percent user funded thing. We don't sell ads or anything like that.

We're not in hock to any corporates named billionaires or anything like that. But my my attitude towards people would be like saying this, you know, of course, I mean, unfortunately, we don't have Project Veritas anymore, but we need more organizations like that in real news. Rahim, excellent work. Hope to see you soon. Thanks so much. Thanks, Sean. Come with a 60 day money back guarantee and a 10 year warranty. Mike's latest incredible deal is the sale of the year for a limited time. You'll receive 50 percent off the Giza DreamSheets, marking prices down as low as twenty nine ninety eight, depending on the size. Go to my pillow dot com promo code Kirk. That is my pillow dot com promo code Kirk, including the MyPillow 2.0 mattress topper, MyPillow kitchen towel sets and so much more. Call 800-875-0425 or go to my pillow dot com.

Use promo code Kirk, my pillow dot com, promo code Kirk. Joining us now is Brendan O'Neill, chief political writer at Spiked Online. He is English, but of Irish descent. Very important piece that he wrote at Spiked Online. Ireland and the fury of the canceled last night's chaos in Dublin was a morbid symptom of Europe's decaying technocracy.

Lots to discuss. Brendan welcomes the program. For those in our audience that are not aware, walk us through all the events that unfolded in Ireland in the last week.

It's on the twenty third of November at around one thirty in the afternoon. A man stabbed three kids outside a school in Dublin and also one of their care workers. One of the kids was very, very badly injured. The others were injured to a lesser degree.

It turns out that this man is around forty nine years old. I think he's of Algerian descent, so he's an immigrant to Ireland, even though he's a naturalized citizen in Ireland as well. And when ordinary people in Dublin found out about this, they were horrified. They were shocked at the attack on Irish kids and they went onto the streets.

They started rioting. They started fighting with the Irish police and there was looting. And O'Connell Street in central Dublin, a street I have walked down many, many times, was set on fire effectively. It was the worst rioting in Dublin in a very long time. So shocking scenes from Ireland. And it really suggests that all is not well in the Irish Republic right now. So I've been to Ireland before. It's a beautiful country. It's also somewhat of a sleepy country.

And I mean that nicely. I mean, it's not a place like the French where it's known for its activism or its political outrage in the streets. This seemed to be a straw that broke the camel's back. We now we know that 20 percent of Ireland is now foreign born. Walk us through some of the history and some of the background of how we got here, how Ireland allowed so many foreigners and third worlders into the beautiful country of Ireland. You know, Ireland's immigration statistics are extraordinary. And I think a lot of people outside Ireland don't realize just how extraordinary they are. So as you've said there, 20 percent of people in Ireland were born outside of Ireland.

That's one in five people. Now to give you a sense of how extraordinary that is, during the great melting pot era in the United States, from the late 1800s to the early 1900s, the period in which we all talk about America as the great country of immigrants, around that time, between 14 and 16 percent of people in America were born outside of America. So Ireland now has a higher proportion of immigrants than America did in its great immigration period. This is really stunning stuff.

It's amazing. And Ireland is not a country of mass immigration. Ireland is a country of mass emigration.

That's how people like me ended up in London and people like me end up in America and Australia. But it's not a country of mass immigration. This is very unusual.

This is very new. And people aren't allowed to talk about it. When they talk about it and raise questions, they are demonized. They are referred to as bigots. If they march on the streets of Dublin to raise questions about mass immigration, as they have done, they are attacked by the police. They are demonized by the president of Ireland, who referred to them as bigots earlier this year. So I saw the riot on the 23rd of November as really the fury of the canceled, the rage off the left behind of people who feel like they've been overlooked. Because if you close down every avenue of expression to ordinary people, eventually it's going to reach a boiling point.

So just walk me through then where did this come from? Is there was there a radical Marxist infiltration of the institutions in Ireland over the last couple decades? Because something here doesn't necessarily fit. It's so suicidal.

It's so not in the best interest. And Ireland is a country with a very distinct national identity, with a rich history, with a tough history, as you've mentioned, because of outward emigration, but a very proud people, people that have a history despite all of the headwinds and the difficulties and the famines. What what is the ideological where did the ideological cancer come from that has consumed the whole nation to basically say, if you disagree with us committing suicide, you're a bigot? Well, you know, the first thing I think to really recognize is what has caused people to feel angry. And, you know, there have been numerous violent events over the past couple of years that I think have pushed people over the edge. So there was the murder of Ashlyn Murphy, a very young school teacher who was murdered in County Offaly. It turned out that her killer was a man from Slovakia. In Sligo, last year, two gay men were killed, murdered, one of them was decapitated. A third gay man was very seriously injured in an attempted murder. And those three attacks, those two murders and the further attack were carried out by a man from Iraq, who was proven to have a violent homophobic hatred for gay people. That's why he attacked these three gay men in Sligo.

And now we have the attack in Dublin, where an Algerian man attacked three school kids. It's really important for people to understand how unusual events like this are in a country like Ireland. Ireland is a small country. It's a country predominantly of tight knit communities. It's still a very rural country. Where my parents come from in the west of Ireland is fairly typical. It's a small town. Everyone knows everyone else.

Everyone stops and talks in the in the street when they walk by each other. It's not, you know, in a crowded city like London, and some cities in America, it is sadly not unknown for random acts of violence like that to occur. But in Ireland, it's very unusual.

And that really pushed people over the edge. And what people are now asking is exactly the question you've raised, Charlie, which is why has our political class allowed this to happen? I think it's partly because the Taoiseach, the leader of Ireland, Leo Varadkar, is very much in hock to the European Union. And of course, the European Union puts pressure on its member states to accept a certain number of migrants to accept the ideology of freedom of movement. It's also because immigration has become a way for the chattering classes in Ireland to morally distinguish themselves from ordinary people. Immigration has become a tool through which they signal their virtue and say, we're open minded, we're good people, we're anti racist, we love people from all around the world as a way of saying we're better than the rest of you. So immigration has been weaponized by both the European Union and the Dublin establishment itself and ordinary people, I think, have been pushed to boiling point on this question.

Yeah. And the the radicalism we're seeing from some of the people, I want to play this here. Fifty two, the Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar, which doesn't sound like an Irish name, maybe I'm wrong, is telling you not to connect crime with migration.

Play cut fifty two. The terrible events that that occurred on Parnell Square on Thursday, you know, I really would ask people to try and avoid connecting crime with migration. It's not right.

Yes, of course, people who are migrants might commit crimes, just as people who aren't commit crimes. Where does where does that come from? I mean, we see it in the left as well.

I just start in America as well. It doesn't seem it seems to be consuming the entire West. And so Leo Varadkar, whatever, said that the government is very white and vowed to make the institutions more diverse. This comes after the government blamed riots following an immigrant stabbing little kids on hooligans driven by far right ideology, led in over one hundred twenty thousand foreigners last year targeting the police force. The Defence Force is the education sector. Ireland is over ninety four percent white.

So let me I have a couple of thoughts. Was this is this some they justify this through economic stimulus saying that we need to try to improve our economy and that this helps the people of Cork and Dublin and low wage jobs. Is that one of the ways that they try to pitch this to the Irish? That is one of the ways they try to pitch it.

It's very unconvincing. A lot of immigrants benefit from the state resources of Ireland. They can claim certain benefits, for example, they can have housing. It is being reported that the man who carried out the stabbing in Dublin is someone who has benefited from state resources and state welfare for quite some time. So sometimes immigrants contribute to the country of Ireland and the economy. Of course they do. If you go to Dublin, you will see immigrants working in shops, working in hotels, in hospitality. They do a good job and they do contribute to the economy. But there are other immigrants who come to Ireland who don't.

And that's a fact of life. And people in Ireland ought to have the liberty to talk about that and to raise questions about the wisdom of inviting so many people into the country. As to why they're doing it, I think, yes, they justify it as a form of economic stimulus. They also use it, as I was saying earlier, as a form of political virtue signalling. You know, we are good, decent members of the European Union and like the rest of the European Union, we are open to immigration. So there's that element of it as well. But I think there's so much gaslighting coming from Leo Veradka and the rest of the government in Dublin, because they now say that anyone who criticises mass immigration is a racist and a member of the far right and a bigot. And that is simply not the case. I know lots of people in Ireland who are liberal, or left wing, or maybe centrists, who increasingly feel uncomfortable with a lack of debate about immigration in Ireland, the lack of honesty about immigration, and the lack of ability for ordinary people to raise questions about this policy. So he's wrong to damn people as far right. And I think that's throwing petrol onto the fire of people's anger.

Yeah, I want to I want to keep on diving into this. I mean, there's there's a lot of descendants of the Irish in America. So it's very interesting to a lot of Americans here, obviously. This is something I would expect out of Germany that has just been beat into submission to have this sort of multigenerational guilt, like, you know, we'll keep on taking your foreigners as long as you stop blaming us. I just I don't expect it out of Ireland. And it's really been interesting to see how some European countries like Hungary and Poland say, no, we're not going to do this, you know, importation of the third world thing.

And other countries in a very perplexing way, like Ireland being one, not the only one like Scotland being another one, the United Kingdom just say, come on in, we have no national identity. For years, we've been talking about how our nation's public schools have been captured by progressive ideologues. They teach things that directly contradict the values of millions of Americans.

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HerzogFoundation.com. So Brendan, just kind of covering Europe in general, we're seeing this a little bit, not just Europe, but the Western world. You see it a little bit in Argentina, a little bit in the Netherlands. You're seeing a building rejection of the elements of mass migration, technocracy, and overly centralized Brussels-type Strasbourg-type governing elite. Walk us through from a European perspective what you're noticing and witnessing here. What are the main drivers of this political realignment? Yeah, I think there's a populist revolt taking place around the Western world.

I personally find it very exciting and very important. I like to think that we Brits were kind of at the forefront of it when we voted for Brexit in 2016. We voted to break away from the European Union, which was an earthquake in Western politics. You know, Britain alongside France and Germany was the key member of the EU. And we kind of set the ball rolling, really, on a populist spirit that has gripped many parts of Europe.

We've seen the rise of Giorgio Maloney in Italy. We've seen the success of the Sweden Democrats in Sweden, which is a party that criticizes immigration. You mentioned Geert Wilders, most recently his surprise victory in the Netherlands. You know, what's really interesting, and I think some of your listeners may not be aware of this, is that actually people in Ireland beat us to the punch because in the 2000s, in 2001, the Irish people voted against the Nice Treaty, which was a treaty to expand the power of the EU. And in 2007, they voted against the Lisbon Treaty, which was another attempt to expand the power of the EU. In both cases, they were ignored and forced to vote again, which created a lot of animus in Ireland towards the European Union.

So I think one of the great ironies about Ireland is that the political class there doesn't realize that even its own population, who they think are just a bunch of idiots, that's how they treat them, even they are skeptical of the growing technocratic power of the EU, and even they have flirted with the populist ideals that we've seen growing up over the past couple of decades. So I think what's happening in Europe is that working class communities in particular, working class voters, the left behind, the people who are ignored, the kind of people who in the United States formed the backbone of the vote for Donald Trump, they have risen up and said, we're sick of being ignored. We're sick of being treated like trash. We're sick of being gaslit and censored and demeaned. And we're going to stand up for ourselves and vote for a different way of doing politics. And they've tried that in Ireland and it failed. And I think they may well try it again because the establishment there is behaving incredibly badly. Yeah. And I think there is a Western. There's Western themes here of pushing back against the overly centralized World Economic Forum ask type governing model.

I need to play this tape here because it's so extraordinary. It's cut 77. The Irish government expects the big tech companies to do censoring for them. It's amazing play cut 77 spoke to a detective in Pierce Street on Saturday who was actively engaged with the social media companies throughout Thursday, who was actively engaged with TikTok, actively engaged with Messa. So Instagram and Facebook was actively engaged with Twitter or X. She said very clearly that social media companies, in particular, TikTok and Messa, they were responding, they were engaging with Gardaí and they were taking down these vile posts as they came up. X were not. X were not. They didn't engage. They did not fulfill their own community standards. And that is why we are moving to a situation where these companies do not get to self-monitor. That's why Commission of Man has been established to make sure that these companies are held responsible because while some were responsible, others were not. So let me reassure you Gardaí were seized of this.

They were engaging. They were engaging directly with the social media companies. They just expect mass censorship. It's absolutely staggering to me that she can be proud that the police were engaging with social media, which basically means the police were putting pressure on social media to censor certain people. That is the beginnings of a police state. When you have the police directly demanding that certain people's posts be taken down and certain people's voices be silenced, that is the beginning of a form of Stalinism. And this is how serious the crisis in Ireland has become where the government has feels more contempt for its own people and their freeborn liberties than it does for the man who carried out that wicked attack outside of school.

It really is quite repulsive. Brendan, excellent work. Thank you so much. You're welcome anytime.

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