What Separates "Gaza" from Hamas? with Alan Dershowitz and Harmeet Dhillon

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Brought to you by the loan experts I trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at andrewandtodd.com. Do we want to win? That's such an obvious question. The great rush Limbaugh taught us that establishment Republicans deep down don't want to win. They want to be controlled opposition, have the media do cover fire for them, be invited to cocktail parties, go on codels, do debates with NBC News. Winning requires responsibility, and deep down Republicans would rather be attachés. They would rather be puppets and controlled by the Democrats. This is why Donald Trump was such a threat to them. When Donald Trump actually won, it was shock and awe throughout of Washington, D.C.

Wait, we actually won something? Donald Trump's insistence on winning is not something the Republican establishment wants. They would rather lose all throughout. The RNC leadership does not want to win.

They have a track record of losing. Do I get any sort of did you guys see Ronna or any of those cabal members get upset today? No, they're too busy doing a debate with NBC News because they hate you. Joining us now is Harmeet Dylan. Harmeet, welcome to the program. Harmeet, you sent out a tweet of you just with your hands up.

What do you think? Yeah, I mean, I'm look, I'm trying to be diplomatic here. I'm a member of the RNC. But in reality, what I and all the other 156, 168 members of the RNC expect is that we are going to be going strong and going to blocking and tackling for our candidates and creating the best situation for our candidates to win.

And what happened yesterday was not that. Now, the RNC is not the only body whose job it is to elect Republicans. In fact, our main focus is supposed to be electing a president.

I'll get to that in a minute. But we ought to be providing guidance and sort of a playbook for state parties to be able to get it right. For a while, to be frank, state parties have also not necessarily done their jobs in raising the money necessarily. But you look at Kentucky, the Republican Governors Association's job is to raise the money and send it so that our candidate is not outspent three or four to one.

We need help with messaging. We need to update our playbook to make sure that we're gathering the ballots and getting those local density ballots in early like the Democrats are doing. And that's not a volunteer activity anymore. Democrats are spending billions of dollars doing that over the last few election cycles.

And we're just not even doing a drop in the bucket compared to that. So, RNC's competence is necessary, but not sufficient to win these elections. And I hope yesterday was a wake up call to all Republicans that we have less than one year to really get our act together and immediately engage and get this right.

Otherwise, we are going to be looking at years of more misery like we're suffering right now. So, Harmeet, just there's a debate tonight. It's kind of perplexing to do a debate with NBC News. Are other members of the RNC equally as confused? People are pretty puzzled by some of these choices, to be frank, but most of us have no input in it. I used to be on the executive committee of the RNC.

I'm not right now. We have a debate committee. I have a couple of friends on the debate committee and, you know, frankly, even some of them are surprised by some of these choices, not just the venues that we're doing them for the platforms, but also the specific moderators have been selected.

It seems almost pointless or like fiddling while Rome is burning to be engaging with the far left here and letting them dictate the terms of our candidate selection. I'm not paying attention to that, to be honest with you. I'm really worried about what's happening in our country, what happened yesterday, and figuring out how we can work around our national effort and make sure this gets done in the states or we're doing them. So, I'm going to ask a hypothetical that isn't so hypothetical for you, not hypothetical for me. Is there a way to recall or remove an RNC chair this far into the game? You know, in the past, hypothetically, where there have been chairs who have failed completely, the executive committee of the Republican National Committee can certainly step in and, let's say, tighten the purse strings, set some boundaries, and make it very difficult. But, you know, Ronna got a mandate in January. She won pretty decisively. People ask me, are you going to contest that?

No, I'm not going to contest it. She definitely won the election with a significant percentage of the votes and there were major political operatives in our country on the Republican side within votes for her and there are many, many political consultants who really run the party who are very invested in the way it is. So, I don't really see that happening. So, you know, while it's convenient to pick a scapegoat of the RNC for what happened yesterday, we got to get it together and not just complain on Twitter. We actually have to just understand this is the situation that we have and work around it. There are state parties. It is the job of state parties to get money and get it together and get a game play. Election laws vary by state. Some states have voter ID. Some states have 45 days of early voting. Whatever the situation is in your state, if you can't change it by election day, figure it out and learn how to master it.

We've done that in California, for example. You know, we hate the system, but we've learned to figure out where we can win elections, ballot harvest, ballot cure and get it done. And we do win those targeted elections. Harmeet, I have a serious concern that we don't have the infrastructure necessary to win coming into next November.

We are running out of time. You sent a tweet out some of this and you said this, which is the infrastructure is just not there. You know, we're not seeing the sort of consolidation of resources.

And Harmeet, I know you have to be diplomatic because you're colleagues, all these people. But I'm going to say something I'm sure you're hearing. This is not just a grassroots concern. High level donors, the richest people are actually saying very similar things as the grassroots as far as why do why are we not placing these investments? This is an unprecedented chapter where the rank and file precinct committeeman, the plumber, the electrician, the welder, the teacher, the mom is saying the same thing as the person worth a couple hundred million dollars. Are you hearing that too, Harmeet?

I am hearing it. I spoke to some donor representatives just earlier this week of billionaire donors, reliable conservative donors. Quite a few of those folks supported change with the RNC.

They didn't see it. And they're sitting on their hands right now. And that's unfortunate because these investments can't happen in October next year.

They can't happen and they can't. There can't be like, OK, let's call up some volunteer lawyers at Cooper and hopefully they'll put down their laptops and go into the field and do stuff. That's not how the Democrats do it. And since 2004, Democrat billionaires and big donors donors have been systematically and in a disciplined way investing in legal warfare, investing in ballot harvesting, investing in smart tactical development of ballot measures and other bait, if you will, to get their voters to the polls, the high propensity voters.

They have the money to pay the mules, gather these ballots and get them in. We are 20 years behind now. And, you know, I feel like watching a debate tonight is like fiddling while Rome is burning.

It is not relevant to winning the election this year. Now, it has to be done. We can't skip this process. But, you know, I wonder why we're doing it with unfriendly moderators and platforms.

It seems like a lost opportunity. Bottom line, if we have been investing in lawfare and in the army of ballot gatherers that we need, like, by the way, a turn point action is doing. Tyler's been out there doing that work.

It's inspiring and it's important. There need to be 100 Tyler's and 100 turn point actions out there doing this work in different states. There's, you know, the party patriots, other groups are doing that. But we just aren't doing enough of it. We have to have more.

And this yesterday needs to be a five alarm fire wake up call. Do not expect largesse from D.C. to save our butts. OK. Organize at the state and local level and find the local lawyers.

And I can help with that. Find the people necessary and prepare the ground. Because if we don't, I mean, literally as we speak, my partners are flying around the country defending the right of President Trump to be on the ballot. This is extraordinary that the regime is trying to. This is what happens in South America and banana republics that the regime tries to prevent the most popular opposition candidate from being free or from being on the ballot. That's what's happening in America right now. So, you know, that's that's what's at stake. And if you get, you know, let's not just use Twitter as a sport and get on there. Oh, you know, it's X person's fault.

It's Y person's fault. That doesn't move the needle. What moves the needle is putting on your big girl and boy pants, getting out there, helping to raise the money and helping be the person who organizes the precincts, finds out which neighbors aren't voting and why and persuade them. And if they're not even going to do that, then find a way to persuade them to turn their ballot over and you get it in for them. That's what it's going to take. Harmeet, Dylan, wish you were RNC chair.

We'd be in a much better spot. Thank you so much. See you soon. My pleasure. Thanks for having me.

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Say that three times. He's a Swiss billionaire. Hans-Jorg Weiss.

Thank you. Vice. He's worth billions of dollars. And he was profiled in The New York Times a couple of years ago.

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That's her thing. But she's still a member of this. George Soros, who's the convener. Reid Hoffman, Mark Benioff, a lot of tech oligarch people master the universe, Mark Benioff, a lot of tech oligarch people master the universe. They believe their God and that you're the peasants.

And it's literally right in front of you. You can check it out. It's called the Democracy Alliance, democracyalliance.org. Now, Hans Jorg, you can say that 50 times, Hans Jorg Weiss is a member of the Democracy Alliance. When you go to the Democracy Alliance's Web site again, it's a dark money, plutocrat, oligarch, billionaire meeting group, planning group, coordination group. You go to their Web site, democracyalliance.org, and they say here are their goals. Number one, their first goal is to change election rules. Their first goal is to change the election rules.

Mark Elias, signature verification, mass mail-in balloting. Understand the disappointing results yesterday are also because they have closed the window of propensity to vote. They took COVID as an opportunity to permanently change our election laws. Republicans used to do better in these off-year election cycles. Now Democrats do better with mass mail-in voting, micro-targeting. The RNC Republicans were doing none of this. There's no war room. There's no data.

There's no sophistication. We're trying our best at turning point action. The next goal of the Democracy Alliance that this foreigner is part of, expand the electoral map to win beyond the current battleground states so we're not always one election loss away from catastrophe.

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That is charlieforhillsdale.com. Joining us now is Professor Alan Dershowitz. Professor, I have to compliment you that you are prolific in your ability to produce new books. This has been what, six, eight weeks? I mean, you do turn this around in record time. Tell us about your latest book. Well, it's only been four weeks and two days.

I dropped everything over. I devoted myself to writing this book called War Against the Jews. I originally called it War Against Israel, but then it became so clear from what's going on in college campuses that this is a war against Jews. If I had to write again, I would say War Against Jews and Americans because, you know, scratch an anti-Semite, scratch an anti-Zionist, and you're going to find an anti-American. One of the reasons so many of these woke people hate Israel is because Israel is America's closest ally in the Middle East and they hate America.

And so these are kids who are so anti. You know, these are these demonstrations aren't pro Palestine demonstrations. They're anti-Palestine because Hamas is Palestine's worst enemy. They're anti-Israel, they're pro Hamas, but they're not pro Palestine and they're anti-American. And they're very dangerous because these kids who today are wearing, you know, green headbands instead of Nazi swastikas, they would join the terrorists if the terrorists started attacking American institutions. So, you know, it's coming to a theater near you like it did in the 1960s and 70s when the weathermen were trying to blow up Fort Dix and plant the bombs at the University of Wisconsin.

That's where it's going. If terrorism is justified, as Barack Obama seemed to suggest the other day, in an outrageous and obscene statement in which he basically in the same breath talked about how bad Hamas was, but also how bad Israel is because it occupies Gaza. No, what ended the occupation of Gaza in 1905, you ignoramus, don't you know anything? And to make that comparison between a disputed military occupation with reasonable people to disagree about and rape beheading and burning of students just encourages these young kids to to justify what Hamas did.

The book is War Against the Jews. Professor, you've spent a serious amount of time at Harvard University prior to this massacre and this intentional attempt to genocide of Jews. Did you start to get indications that the Harvard student body was this anti-Semitic or were you even shocked when you saw 31 Harvard student organizations and over a thousand Harvard students convene just days where they still haven't identified the bodies and the hostages are still being held? As someone who spent a lot of time at Harvard, did you see this coming? I saw it coming.

I'll tell you why I saw it coming. I left Harvard 10 years ago. After 50 years of teaching, I was one of the most popular teachers and one of the most popular speakers. I was asked to speak literally once a week there.

Since I left Harvard 10 years ago, I have never been asked to come back to Harvard to speak. Once when a Bada organization asked me to speak, they had to move my speech off campus with fear that if I spoke about Israel on campus, my life and safety would be in danger. I saw it happening. I saw it coming. When Harvard picked its newest president, who was woke and progressive and was involved in the firing of Ron Sullivan, a great young African American lawyer who fired him because he had represented Harvey Weinstein, I saw this coming.

I didn't think it would be as stupid and ignorant as this. These 33 student groups attacked Israel even before Israel fired a single shot. They said they blamed Israel for the rapes, the beheadings, the burnings, the kidnappings. Can you imagine a student group getting on campus and saying, we blame blacks for being lynched in the South because they were too uppity? We blame women for rapes because they wear provocative clothing.

We blame gays for being shot and attacked because of their lifestyle. Nobody would get away with that. The president of the university would be out there making the strongest possible statement condemning those racist sexes and bigots. But where is the president of Harvard when it comes to condemning these 33 student groups? Absolutely silent, which is why I and so many other people long associated with Harvard have broken our association, certainly financially. We're not contributing a single penny.

One group has decided to send a dollar a year just to make it clear what we're doing. But I'm not sending a penny to Harvard, a penny to Yale, a penny to Brooklyn College where I went to school and where I was educated. But I'm not going to contribute to bigotry and anti-Semitism just the way I wouldn't contribute if the school tolerated the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi party or any group of that kind.

The book is War Against the Jews, How to End Hamas Barbarism. I want to get into that question, but just a follow up, Professor, can you can you help illustrate the psychology of the Harvard president and the people? Do they really hate Jews or is it that they are comfortable with Jew haters? I mean, or is it unclear? Well, it depends.

Everybody's different. In the 1930s, Harvard welcomed Nazis. It sent delegations to a Nazi university that had just fired all of its Jewish professors.

It wanted to be part of the greater European community, many, many of which were supportive of Nazis. It had quotas against Jews, going back to the 1915, 1920 period. I don't believe these people hate Jews. They just don't want to get into a confrontation with woke students. They're terrified of students. Students today run the asylum and young faculty members run the asylum. And they are encouraging students to say and do things that are antisemitic. And then Barack Obama joins in.

He's a great role model for students. He basically issued a statement saying that the raping, the beheading, the burning of innocent people, you can understand that because life is so unbearable in the occupied territories. Well, there's no occupation of Gaza.

It ended in 2005. And there's no occupation in Ramallah or the biggest cities on the West Bank. And even if there were, how does that in any way explain how people can murder and behead children? And Barack Obama ought to be ashamed of himself for making that comparison and encouraging students who admire him and support him, as I once did, but no longer do. And, you know, we have a real problem with what the elders are telling the youngers.

And the youngers are just swallowing the Kool-Aid, listening and babbling forth what they've been told. So, professor, Americans, especially American students, aren't exactly experts in foreign affairs. Talk through the facts here, because there's so much disinformation and intentional misinformation. I know you talk about this in your book, War Against the Jews. Explain Gaza, Hamas, the Palestinian Authority, Israel's relationship. And I could just go through the list, professor, but you've heard it. Open air apartheid state, you know, intentional genocide, ethnic cleansing.

Take whichever one you'd like. But this is these are repeated. It's all the same. In 2005, Israel ended its occupation, not only removed every single Israeli civilian and soldier, but even dug up the bodies of people long dead and brought them back to Israel. Enormous amounts of money were poured into the Gaza Strip, which was then controlled by the Palestinian Authority. They could have turned it into Singapore and the Mediterranean. It's a beautiful place. I've been there. I've had meals there. I've spoken to people there.

It's right on the water. They could have done that. But Hamas had a coup and it illegally took over the running of the government. It killed the PLO leaders. It began to send rockets into Israel, build tunnels. At that point, Israel imposed controls over the borders.

That's not an occupation. There wasn't a single Israeli. 15000 Gazans a day came to work in Israel. It turns out that several of them were spies now who helped provide Hamas with information necessary to kill and kidnap these Israeli civilians. But this is 100 percent the fault of Hamas. If President Obama thinks that life in Gaza is unbearable, he ought to point the finger at the people who are making it unbearable. Hamas, these leaders are billionaires. The New York Post had a story about six or seven of them, each worth over a billion dollars, taking the money that was intended for the people in the medical hospitals and the education in Gaza and putting it in their own bank accounts and in Qatar and in Turkey.

So shame on Obama for miseducating and misinforming the American public and particularly young people about the realities in the Middle East. And if you're gay or you're a feminist, how do you support Hamas? Hamas believes in rape, honor killing. It believes in killing gays.

It believes in killing transgenders. Let these people go to Gaza and protest Israel there. They wouldn't have to buy a return ticket because they'd be murdered as soon as they set foot in Gaza, even if they were Jewish, especially if they were Jewish. But if they were gay or anything else that violates Sharia law, they'd be killed. Hamas is not interested in a two-state solution.

It's interested in Palestine will be free from the river to the sea, which means free of Jews, which means not a single Jew is allowed to remain alive between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. That's why Congresswoman Tlaib was appropriately sanctioned by the House of Representatives with the votes of 20-some-odd Democrats. Do you think that the IDF and Israel is on their way to ending Hamas, extinguishing this moral cancer from the face of the earth? If the United States doesn't stop them. And in my book, I end by saying, look, you must ignore international opinion on this.

You have the right to defend yourself. After Pearl Harbor, after the Germans start attacking, nobody was calling for fire. We want the total victory, complete surrender. That's what Israel is entitled to.

That's what the world's entitled to. You know, the major beneficiaries would be if we're destroyed, the Palestinian people. Maybe, maybe they could keep some of their money. Maybe they can educate their children instead of teaching them to hate Jews.

Maybe they can put money into hospitals and build a Singapore on the Mediterranean. But with Hamas there, there's no chance of that. So the best thing that could happen if you're a pro-Palestinian, you must be anti-Hamas.

Well, and that's really when I go on these campuses, professor, they have to choose one way. So I'll say one thing. I'll say, you know, Hamas is terrible. And then they'll say, but Hamas doesn't represent the Palestinian authority. I say, well, then wouldn't you support the IDF going after Hamas?

Which one is it then? Exactly. Either you support the liberation or you don't. Well, Hamas is the Palestinian people. Exactly. That's the problem.

And no one wants to say no, you can't have it both ways. They, they are democratically elected, weren't they, professor? But they were elected. I don't know about how democratic it ever is in Gaza Strip, but they were elected and they are popular there.

And their popularity increased after October 7th. There were demonstrations in the speech, people, streets, people were cheering the beheaded body, bleeding body of a woman who had been raped. They were cheering and yelling Allahu Akbar. These are not innocent people. Sure, three-year-old children are innocent and they're being used as human shields by Hamas in order to have them killed so that their bodies can be paraded in front of CNN. They call it the CNN strategy.

In my book, I call it the dead babies. The book is War Against the Jews. I'm going to purchase a couple of copies. Professor Dershowitz writes a very important book here. I want to tell you about the Herzog Foundation. We are partnering with them on some exciting stuff. For years, I've been talking about our nation's public schools and how they've been captured by progressive ideologues, teaching things that directly contradict the values of American families, especially true if you're a Christian family. For those of you worried about the best educational path, I want you guys to check out the Herzog Foundation. They are the trusted source on American K-12 public education with a remarkable suite of resources for parents and grandparents thinking about making the switch from public schools to a Christian education.

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It's occupation. Walk us through because the book is How to End Hamas Barbarism. Walk us through it. There are two solutions and they both require tough attitudes. Number one, Israel must be permitted to totally destroy the Hamas military capacity just as the United States destroyed the Nazi German and the Japanese military capacities. And just like the United States and our allies destroyed ISIS and Al Qaeda. It must be the end of Hamas and that they can't, and the president has said this and others have said this, Republicans and Democrats joint, Hamas cannot any longer be controlled, can't control the Gaza Strip.

That's number one. Number two, we must destroy Iran's nuclear arsenal capacity. Iran is behind all these.

They have to be punished. They're sitting in Tehran and laughing. In the meantime, Israelis are dying, Palestinians are dying, university students and Iran is laughing.

They're benefiting from all this because they pull the strings. And this is the perfect time for Israel with the logistical support of the United States once it finishes with Hamas to send its air force and its submarines to destroy the ability of Iran to develop a nuclear arsenal, which they have said they would use against Israel. What country has an obligation to wait until the first atomic bomb drops? As Iran's leaders have said, Israel is a one bomb state. All you have to do is drop one bomb, kill three million people, and that's the end of Israel forever. They then continue and Israel will then drop a bomb on Tehran and kill 10 million Muslims.

But that's worth it, they say. This would mean the end of Judaism, the end of Israel, and yet Islam would still survive. No country has the obligation to wait until that happens. And so Israel must retaliate and respond and prevent Iran from developing a nuclear arsenal. Imagine if the terrorist groups, Hamas or Hezbollah, had been given small nuclear devices by Iran.

Everything would be different. And, you know, America's next. If Iran is allowed to go after the small devil, they'll go after the big devil.

The big devil is the United States, according to them. So how would you judge or analyze the current military operation? Do you think it's been going as you would have anticipated? Is it close to accomplishing their goals? You know, there has been nonstop war reporting, professor, but it's been rather hard to get information.

We get a little snippet here, a little snippet there. What should we be made aware of? Well, Israel has a policy and a plan. They want to cut the Gaza Strip in half, want to send the civilians to the south.

They're every day having four or five hour sensations of bombing. They've created roads. Hamas has killed some of the people, by the way, who have tried to come south because they don't want them to come south. And others have gone south. Then Hamas, of course, fires rockets from the south at Israel, and Israel has to respond by taking out the rockets. And then Hamas says, see, even the people in the south aren't safe. Well, they are safe if you just stop sending rockets. Let the people, the civilians, go to the south.

Yeah, they're going to not be able to be in their homes for a few weeks. Too bad when you support a government that murders 1,400 people and takes 242 of them hostage, you're going to suffer a little bit. That's part of what happened to the German people, the Japanese people. America and our allies killed millions of civilians to win the Second World War without a lot of protest. And now Israel has to be able to do that. And Hamas can avoid civilian casualties by just allowing the civilians in the south, take them out of the hospitals, because the hospitals are now being used as underground bunkers to protect Hamas murderers. And Israel has the right to go after these murderers. So, yes, there'll be civilian casualties, but every one of them will be the fault of Hamas.

War against the Jews, how to end Hamas barbarism. Professor, congratulations on another book. Very important.

I encourage everyone to buy it as we fight against the rampant anti-Semitism and Jew hatred in our country. Thank you so much, Professor, for having me. I appreciate it. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always. Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. Thanks so much for listening. God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charlie Kirk dot com. Watch 24 seven on SNC TV and on local now. Channel 525.